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Just saw on Microsoft https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/corporate-responsibility/topics/open-weight/ https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/corporate-responsibility/top

Just saw on Microsoft https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/corporate-responsibility/topics/open-weight/ https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/corporate-responsibility/top...

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mmusc 2mo ago
Makes sense Microsoft is placing it self as a model host and os providing open weight models for much cheaper on their infra already. No wonder openai and anthropic are terrified
- thewebguyd 2mo ago
  Makes sense for Microsoft. Copilot is already capable of being model agnostic (both GH Copilot, obviously, and M365 as well). They're an enterprise software & services company, they want to sell integrated AI tooling in their stack, powered by whatever models their customers want rather than any specific model. Models are quickly becoming a dumb pipe, like an ISP. Just a commodity. The labs should rightfully be terrified, eventually the value isn't going to come from the model itself but the tools & integrations built on top. Non-tech businesses and non-tech employees don't want to buy API access to a model, they want to buy off the shelf software with its capabilities packaged up into a pretty, easy to use GUI.
  - Panoramix 2mo ago
    I don't know about that, a lot of those bloated enterprise solutions are becoming obsolete fast, and integrations becoming a moot point as these models advance.
    - thewebguyd 2mo ago
      Maybe for startups or simple orgs, but in any regulated industry/high compliance requirements they are still useful or outright required. Claude Team w/ Cowork still only lets you set R/W permissions globally for each MCP connector for the whole team, they still don't offer config on a per-user basis. The enterprise controls are sorely lacking first party. Maybe fine for most startups or flat orgs, but any established enterprise with strong identity & access governance is going to have an issue with that. You can make it work, but you need to make your own agent/harness and give it an identity in Entra or whatever else you use, so for a non-tech company without a dev team, right back to square one of preferring to just buy a COTS solution vs trying to hand out direct model access with minimal governance. (M365) Copilot sucks but Microsoft is putting a ton of work into agent governance & identity that sorely lacking elsewhere.

Just saw on Microsoft https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/corporate-responsibility/topics/open-weight/ https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/corporate-responsibility/top...

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mmusc 2mo ago

Makes sense Microsoft is placing it self as a model host and os providing open weight models for much cheaper on their infra already. No wonder openai and anthropic are terrified

thewebguyd 2mo ago
Makes sense for Microsoft. Copilot is already capable of being model agnostic (both GH Copilot, obviously, and M365 as well). They're an enterprise software & services company, they want to sell integrated AI tooling in their stack, powered by whatever models their customers want rather than any specific model. Models are quickly becoming a dumb pipe, like an ISP. Just a commodity. The labs should rightfully be terrified, eventually the value isn't going to come from the model itself but the tools & integrations built on top. Non-tech businesses and non-tech employees don't want to buy API access to a model, they want to buy off the shelf software with its capabilities packaged up into a pretty, easy to use GUI.
- Panoramix 2mo ago
  I don't know about that, a lot of those bloated enterprise solutions are becoming obsolete fast, and integrations becoming a moot point as these models advance.
  - thewebguyd 2mo ago
    Maybe for startups or simple orgs, but in any regulated industry/high compliance requirements they are still useful or outright required. Claude Team w/ Cowork still only lets you set R/W permissions globally for each MCP connector for the whole team, they still don't offer config on a per-user basis. The enterprise controls are sorely lacking first party. Maybe fine for most startups or flat orgs, but any established enterprise with strong identity & access governance is going to have an issue with that. You can make it work, but you need to make your own agent/harness and give it an identity in Entra or whatever else you use, so for a non-tech company without a dev team, right back to square one of preferring to just buy a COTS solution vs trying to hand out direct model access with minimal governance. (M365) Copilot sucks but Microsoft is putting a ton of work into agent governance & identity that sorely lacking elsewhere.