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Currently using Oh My Pi (https://github.com/can1357/oh-my-pi https://github.com/can1357/oh-my-pi) and appreciate the batteries included approach. From my limi

by roger_ 2mo ago

Currently using Oh My Pi (https://github.com/can1357/oh-my-pi https://github.com/can1357/oh-my-pi) and appreciate the batteries included approach. From my limited time using pure Pi, I found quite a few of the plugins lacking and had no desire to upgrade/fix and maintain them myself. I know others feel differently though. I like the idea of keep Pi minimal but having “official”, high quality optional plugins to make it more usable.

beepbooptheory 2mo ago
As AI outsider, can you speak to how you draw the line here? Like doesn't the agential blahblah make upgrades/maintenance trivial? When do you get it to make you the thing versus choosing to vendor something out like back in the day?
- evilduck 2mo ago
  Making the upgrades or maintaining or crafting from scratch a plugin isn't free, it costs tokens and time and attention. And you're almost assuredly reinventing a wheel that someone else already did and probably did better. I like have the ability, but I prefer not needing it.
- roger_ 2mo ago
  Funny you mention that because the OMP GitHub issues (https://github.com/can1357/oh-my-pi/issues https://github.com/can1357/oh-my-pi/issues) is almost exclusively attended to by a very efficient bot. I routinely submit issues and they’re replicated and resolved (via PRs) in ~30 mins. To your question: it’s the difference between one person and an agent working on something vs an experienced dev and the entire community. Time and tokens too of course.
  - kzrdude 2mo ago
    Oh-my-pi seems to like robo coding, while pi itself is entirely against vibe coding for production. (The clanker is a tool, not a free wheeling agent.) And I see that tonight pi has had their regular devs ship (https://github.com/earendil-works/pi/tags https://github.com/earendil-works/pi/tags) new releases with modified thinking levels for GPT-5.6 while roboomp is discussing this back and forth with some contributors in oh-my-pi's repo.
brandall10 2mo ago
To be clear, Oh My Pi isn't simply batteries included like LaziPi. It's a fork with a bunch of foundational extra features built into the core.
rao-v 2mo ago
I'm exploring the pi based options now and I like that Oh-my-pi actually adds new value over extensions (the advisor and stream interruption hooks are pretty clever). I just wish it had a way for me to downlimit tool access (I love midsized local models, and I'd love to enable only 30% of the power for some usecases).

by roger_ 2mo ago

beepbooptheory 2mo ago

As AI outsider, can you speak to how you draw the line here? Like doesn't the agential blahblah make upgrades/maintenance trivial? When do you get it to make you the thing versus choosing to vendor something out like back in the day?

evilduck 2mo ago
Making the upgrades or maintaining or crafting from scratch a plugin isn't free, it costs tokens and time and attention. And you're almost assuredly reinventing a wheel that someone else already did and probably did better. I like have the ability, but I prefer not needing it.
roger_ 2mo ago
Funny you mention that because the OMP GitHub issues (https://github.com/can1357/oh-my-pi/issues https://github.com/can1357/oh-my-pi/issues) is almost exclusively attended to by a very efficient bot. I routinely submit issues and they’re replicated and resolved (via PRs) in ~30 mins. To your question: it’s the difference between one person and an agent working on something vs an experienced dev and the entire community. Time and tokens too of course.
- kzrdude 2mo ago
  Oh-my-pi seems to like robo coding, while pi itself is entirely against vibe coding for production. (The clanker is a tool, not a free wheeling agent.) And I see that tonight pi has had their regular devs ship (https://github.com/earendil-works/pi/tags https://github.com/earendil-works/pi/tags) new releases with modified thinking levels for GPT-5.6 while roboomp is discussing this back and forth with some contributors in oh-my-pi's repo.

brandall10 2mo ago

To be clear, Oh My Pi isn't simply batteries included like LaziPi. It's a fork with a bunch of foundational extra features built into the core.

rao-v 2mo ago

I'm exploring the pi based options now and I like that Oh-my-pi actually adds new value over extensions (the advisor and stream interruption hooks are pretty clever). I just wish it had a way for me to downlimit tool access (I love midsized local models, and I'd love to enable only 30% of the power for some usecases).