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You owe society more than nothing, otherwise you end up with a sick society.
by phist_mcgee 2mo ago
You owe society more than nothing, otherwise you end up with a sick society.
- yamillove 2mo agoIf you had read the whole sentence, you would have found a few other words, which say “just because you have privilege.” All men are created equal. Civic duties apply equally to everyone. Once people have met their legal obligations (say, paying taxes and obeying the law), any additional generosity is voluntary, not owed, so having more privilege does not automatically create greater moral obligations. Say, I am beautiful and you are ugly. That’s my privilege. Do I owe more than you? No. It sucks for you. Sorry but that’s life. Stop whining and keep making the best you have with your God-given privileges (maybe you are say, taller or have more money).
- phist_mcgee 2mo agoWhat an odd world view. Of course the priviliged have greater social obligations, because they are greater benefactors of life. We're all equal under the law but that doesn't mean that those with greater means shouldn't have greater impacts on society. Meritocracy is often a buzzword of the elite to avoid paying their fair share.
- yamillove 2mo ago[flagged]
- phist_mcgee 2mo ago>America is the Greatest Country on Earth Yeah ok mate. Have a good one.
- yamillove 2mo agoThanks. If you think some other country is, then tell us.
- Natfan 2mo agocitation needed on that last claim. do you have universal healthcare free at point of service? do you have a healthy supply of public housing? do you let children starve, through no fault of their own but the circumstances of their birth? do you engage is ears of choice and murder 100+ innocent children in a primary school on the first day of the conflict? the answer to some of these questions should be yes, and others should be no, if you're going to make the claim that the United States of America is the "Greatest Country on Earth, Ever".
- yamillove 2mo agoThe greatest country on earth ever is that which most people of the world, if given a free plane ticket and permission to live in, would go to. I don’t know how you find it controversial. It’s just a fact.
- BenjiWiebe 2mo agoMaybe just the best marketed?
- yamillove 2mo agoYou need the goods. You cannot market Somalia for example.
- Natfan 2mo agoalso the rich absolutely _do_ owe society at large something: taxes. a thing which, as you get richer, it apparently becomes optional due to financial engineering
- yamillove 2mo agoThere is a tax book. If you don’t take advantage of every possible option allowed by the thick book, then you are just dumb. But if you are feeling more patriotic than you usually feel, may I remind you Uncle Sam accepts gifts at: https://fiscal.treasury.gov/financing/gifts-to-government https://fiscal.treasury.gov/financing/gifts-to-government
- Natfan 2mo agounclear as to how i, a non-US citizen, would give the US government taxes. also unclear as to why i would want to help fund a genocide, but that's just me.
- rbanffy 2mo ago> That’s why America is the Greatest Country on Earth, ever You forgot the sarcasm tag.
- yamillove 2mo agoWell, it’s the country that most people who leave their country risk their lives to move to. So at least most immigrants on earth agree with me.
- rbanffy 2mo agoIf I were to nitpick, I would say that they try to move to a idealised version of the US that never quite existed. This romanticised version has been pervasively depicted in mass consumption media for many decades. More meaningful perhaps would be to count the immigrants from developed countries and immigrants that earn above the median in their respective countries and/or go to the US and earn above the American median. There are a lot of desperate people in the world right now who’ll take extreme action to escape their immediate predicaments, such as risking a Mediterranean crossing from Northern Africa to Europe.
- yamillove 2mo ago[dead]
- sevenseacat 2mo ago> That’s why America is the Greatest Country on Earth, ever. hahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahhahahhahahahahahahahhaahah
- yamillove 2mo agoWell, it’s definitely not Australia
- sevenseacat 2mo agoAnd I'm not conceited enough to claim that it is
- otikik 2mo ago- And remember, Peter, with great power comes great responsibility - No. It sucks for you. Sorry but that's life (Uncle Ben dies sad)
- yamillove 2mo agoLiberals: “Introducing Peter Tax: $1.00 for every square you spend gliding instead of walking.” Liberals: “People that glide should not exist!”