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There is no reason I can’t put a swimming pool size battery under my house. I don’t care what the energy density is, make it bulletproof and cheap and massive.
by eagerpace 2mo ago
There is no reason I can’t put a swimming pool size battery under my house. I don’t care what the energy density is, make it bulletproof and cheap and massive.
- shadowpho 2mo agoCost is a reason. You need to dig out that dirt (which is expensive), it needs supports, your house needs support around it/through it… Making things bulletproof and massive runs opposite of cheap
- stronglikedan 2mo agoI figured they meant while building the house, which of course would cut costs by a lot if it were engineered for.
- soco 2mo agoWhy under the house? It can sit under your yard, no need to bother with so many tons of construction concrete on top of it.
- giwook 2mo agoFor some reason I wouldn't exactly feel safe knowing there is a huge battery under my house that may combust at any moment.
- mschuster91 2mo agoThat's the beauty with sodium ion batteries, they are generally considered to be even less flammable than already pretty safe LiFePO4.
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- margalabargala 2mo agoUnfortunately that's not exactly true. Aqueous sodium ion chemistries like Na-VPF and Na-tmCN are more fire-safe than lithium, but they're also not as developed/available yet. Na-NMF, which is what a random off-the-shelf sodium cell is likely to be, is actually more flammable than LiFePO4.
- ck2 2mo agothat might be a evolutionary step where you just pump in electrolyte under a housing into waterproof container and every 10 years just pump it out again for fresh electrolyte doesn't burn like LiFePo4 so no fire risks, though I am not sure what a short-circuit would do in damage/danger why even under a structure though, just do it like a septic tank?
- coldtea 2mo ago"There's no reason" just "make it safe and cheap in huge size". Kind of like there's no reason we can't go to Mars for tourism. Just make it as convenient, safe, and cheap as a jet to London.
- eagerpace 2mo agoI failed to land my point, it’s that instead of chasing small and complex battery systems to put in cars, lower tech, bigger, less convenient battery tech of the pool-under-house scale, could be an incredible option. Stationary batteries don’t have the same constraints as the portable batteries we are familiar with from even before the lithium ion age.
- xnx 2mo agoThis sounds like grid storage, which is actively being deployed to even out supply from renewables.
- proee 2mo agoI don't think swimming pool is the best size. Why not a hole that's a few meters in diameter but SUPER deep? So long as your water table is sufficiently deep. This way you can service it, should you need to remove/replace contents. If it's under your house - good luck with that.