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gergelycsegzi 3mo ago
Planning to serve good things for sure, and appreciate your note. Ofc I didn't agree with everything Palantir was doing (also to the extent that we even knew about them at the time). I was working on vaccine distribution and cancer research as well, so definitely felt like helping.
dang 3mo ago
A launch post is not a place to attack other users personally. Neither is any other HN thread for that matter, so please don't do it here. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
- Johnny_Bonk 3mo ago
  Noted — and I did wish the founder success. I have no personal ill will towards them. But what I'd ask HN to consider is this: our world, and the technology we introduce into it, isn't apolitical or free of normative stakes and real, harmful implications for people. Treating where you've worked and what technology you've stewarded into being as an ethically neutral fact isn't neutral at all. What concerns me is that there's an increasing firewall against calling out things that ACTUALLLY harm people — while an objection gets reframed as a personal attack on someone willingly able to propagate problematic things. But this seems to be where the corporate tech world is moving as it cozies up to the authoritarians.
  - dang 3mo ago
    Sure, and HN hosts many threads where people debate these points. We're not against that and often as not agree with them. But this is a startup launch thread about something unrelated, and hounding someone about an ex-employer is a tenuous ground for bringing such material up. It's the sort of thing this guideline (from https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html) asks people not to do, even apart from the personal aspect: "Eschew flamebait. Avoid generic tangents." More about that here in case helpful: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48750103 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48750103
    - Johnny_Bonk 3mo ago
      yes i do agree, thank you
deaux 3mo ago
Do you ask this to all HNers who have worked at Meta, Google, Microsoft and Amazon - the latter three who Palantir relies on to even exist? I.e. half of HN?
- Johnny_Bonk 3mo ago
  no but we're all implicated including myself

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Planning to serve good things for sure, and appreciate your note. Ofc I didn't agree with everything Palantir was doing (also to the extent that we even knew about them at the time). I was working on vaccine distribution and cancer research as well, so definitely felt like helping.

dang 3mo ago

A launch post is not a place to attack other users personally. Neither is any other HN thread for that matter, so please don't do it here. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Johnny_Bonk 3mo ago
Noted — and I did wish the founder success. I have no personal ill will towards them. But what I'd ask HN to consider is this: our world, and the technology we introduce into it, isn't apolitical or free of normative stakes and real, harmful implications for people. Treating where you've worked and what technology you've stewarded into being as an ethically neutral fact isn't neutral at all. What concerns me is that there's an increasing firewall against calling out things that ACTUALLLY harm people — while an objection gets reframed as a personal attack on someone willingly able to propagate problematic things. But this seems to be where the corporate tech world is moving as it cozies up to the authoritarians.
- dang 3mo ago
  Sure, and HN hosts many threads where people debate these points. We're not against that and often as not agree with them. But this is a startup launch thread about something unrelated, and hounding someone about an ex-employer is a tenuous ground for bringing such material up. It's the sort of thing this guideline (from https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html) asks people not to do, even apart from the personal aspect: "Eschew flamebait. Avoid generic tangents." More about that here in case helpful: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48750103 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48750103
  - Johnny_Bonk 3mo ago
    yes i do agree, thank you

deaux 3mo ago

Do you ask this to all HNers who have worked at Meta, Google, Microsoft and Amazon - the latter three who Palantir relies on to even exist? I.e. half of HN?

Johnny_Bonk 3mo ago
no but we're all implicated including myself