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If everyone turned off their lights 100% of the time they left their workstation, they could power those additional data centers for about one second.
by scottndecker 3mo ago
If everyone turned off their lights 100% of the time they left their workstation, they could power those additional data centers for about one second.
- burnte 3mo agoBillionaries are willing to have us make that sacrifice!
- skeeter2020 3mo agonot to mention you'll get much farther, faster & easier with timers on the lights than some sort of 100% voluntary participation dream.
- dylan604 3mo agoever been in a room of people sitting in cubicles where the lights are controlled by motion sensor to automatically turn off the lights after a set period of no motion? fun times. it took way longer to get that switch replaced than it should have
- fluorinerocket 3mo agoYes there are a bunch of terrible ideas in this thread. Video camera controlled lights? Yes f privacy of everyone to save a few bucks? well I think that was sarcastic Motion controlled lights are always timed badly, incredibly annoying to have them switch off when you are sitting still working or taking a duece. How about the janitor shuts off the lights after everyone goes home?
- dylan604 3mo agoThere's something to be said about having lights on in a room that is not occupied the entire time the lights are on. Before LED lighting, it was a decent attempt at reducing unnecessary lighting.
- conductr 3mo agoHow about just forget about this thread and don’t let it be a major annoyance. It’s a very minor annoyance. It would be a more widespread debate/discussion if so many people were upset by it. At the least, just admit you’re in the minority that are so upset by it and then just live with it anyways. I say that to make a point about magnitude of annoyances. Sure it’s annoying. So are potholes. It does seem like a slightly smarter device could be built. The times it happens to me, and I wave my hands in the air to turn lights back on, it’s not that annoying. When I’m there for 3 more hours and I have to do it every 5-10 minutes. That’s more annoying. So the simple thing to do is to program the thing to incrementally increase its timer length. 5/10/20/30 minutes might be less annoying. Also if motion is detected a short time after the no motion timer triggers, that’s probably a sign there was someone present the entire time. Can adjust the logic with that in mind too. The current devices are fine it’s the logic that was lazy.
- Liftyee 3mo agoSmarter device would just require a little more cost. Current devices can work with no code, just analog electronics.
- conductr 3mo agoIf you’re a cost conscious manufacturer, I think you could do it very cheaply these days (cents/unit). The problem is most manufacturers would turn this into a full blown AI capable smart device to justify charging a lot more.
- fluorinerocket 3mo agoI am certainly in the minority and I do live with it. Things like motion sensor lights, faucets that turn off so quickly that you have to hold your hands in weird position to wash them, 1.6 gallon flush toilets are all completely avoidable things that are forced on us by a misguided sense of doo gooding. These so called innovations are WORSE than what they replaced, less reliable, and often are so badly designed they accomplish the exact opposite of what they are intended to do. A increasing retry time motion sensor light switch is a good idea. But then again, wherever these things are installed, they go with the cheapest thing that to meet code and get whatever energy certification. Zero Fs are given by the people who don't have to use the room. The worst thing will be what is used. That is my experience. Oh you want to change the timersetting? Guess what that's on a dip switch behind the face plate, and you need to find and shut off the breaker and pull the thing from the wall. Put in a ticket to facilities, we'll get to it never Yes let's make you flush 5 times to save 0 water over a conventional while we run the sprinklers to keep our immaculate lawn green during a 105 degree summer. Want to take a nice 5 gpm shower? No, you need to let almond farmers drain the river before it gets to the ocean so everybody can have almond milk. Stay in there twice as long buddy, don't know what to tell you.
- shagie 3mo agoI was a contractor at Sun in '97, Palo Alto campus. Initially they put me in a shared office, and that was ok. Later, I got moved to a hallway. My machine had a hard reboot that first night... I lost my unsaved work and at that point I made it a point of religiously saving my work each evening when I went home... because each night my machine rebooted. One day it was rather quiet. Might have been day before a long weekend, but it was a slow day in the building - very few people were walking about. I was working... and then my machine lost power. I stood up to figure out what was going on and my machine got power back. Ok... followed power cords to the wall. It was plugged into a gray outlet (rather than white outlet). The gray outlets were hooked up to the motion sensor that was for the hall lighting.
- dylan604 3mo agoWhile that is an interesting issue to deal with, I was totally lost at the concept of not saving before going home. I can't go five minutes without saving, and you were willing to leave the "room" without saving? That's just one of those things so outside my normal that I got lost in thinking about it especially as matter of fact as it was recited. You live in a different realm my friend.
- emsign 3mo ago"Who needs public schools anyway? I pay my kid's teachers salary directly."
- GuestFAUniverse 3mo agoAnd the rest has AI. All is fine. /s
- hakunin 3mo agoJust use smart lights that feed video into an llm to check if lights should shut down.
- iamtheworstdev 3mo agohahah that is so wonderfully malicious compliance
- mk_stjames 3mo agoThat's not 'malicious compliance'... it's 'Jevonsian insanity'.
- sokoloff 3mo ago[flagged]
- cwillu 3mo agoYou dropped the time component from the first, so yes, the result is incomparable. “Power spent on lighting worstations while vacant” is energy
- Dr_Emann 3mo agoI don't think so, "while vacant" is an infinite amount of time, if you look infinitely far into the future.
- sokoloff 3mo agoAssume that each workstation is lit by 100W of lighting and is vacant 18 hours per day (to make the math easy). I claim that's 75W of power that could be reclaimed by turning off a 100W load 75% of the time. Explain how you get to energy or how I dropped time, please.
- kube-system 3mo agoThe statement was rhetorical, not a precise engineering analysis.
- imhoguy 3mo agoTurn off computers and phones. No need for DCs then.