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amarcheschi 3mo ago
Anthropic just stole the internet and put it in a transformer and pat itself on the back for it - well no to be honest we have to suffer through hearing them saying that this model is really really dangerous until they got a reaction for they fear mongering
itsdesmond 3mo ago
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- I_am_tiberius 3mo ago
  +1
  - Zetaphor 3mo ago
    Please use the upvote button instead of doing this.
- renoir 3mo ago
  This exactly. YC companies literally steal competing company 1:1 and you turn blindeye. Then a thief steals from a thief to give it out at better prices than you write low quality comment. Shame that America will greet 250th anniversary with this kind living in it.
  - ce3d 3mo ago
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    - cindyllm 3mo ago
      [dead]
    - wise_young_man 3mo ago
      You made a new account to post this?
  - surgical_fire 3mo ago
    It's only immoral when others steal.
- prng2021 3mo ago
  Thanks for the irrelevant comment. I’m criticizing these Chinese companies because these aren’t accomplishments. Where did I praise Anthropic?
- dang 3mo ago
  Please don't take HN threads further into flamewar hell. It's not what this site is for, and destroys what it is for. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
ceejayoz 3mo ago
https://www.npr.org/2025/09/05/g-s1-87367/anthropic-authors-settlement-pirated-chatbot-training-material https://www.npr.org/2025/09/05/g-s1-87367/anthropic-authors-... Seems like a bit of karmic justice.
visha1v 3mo ago
they mined the internet first. now they’re upset someone brought a shovel.
TheGoddessInari 3mo ago
Both of the mentioned models are model orchestrators using a vastly different multi model paradigm. Saying they in particularare distilled from Anthropic is really [citation needed].
nullbio 3mo ago
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- ceejayoz 3mo ago
  > Now no one can access ChatGPT 5.6 because of their 5 year long fearmongering regulatory capture campaign. I'm sympathetic to this arguement, but it's silly to ignore the other half; that the administration has openly feuding with them for months over limits to military capabilities. https://www.politico.com/news/2026/06/04/hegseth-anthropic-designation-supply-chain-risk-00951183 https://www.politico.com/news/2026/06/04/hegseth-anthropic-d...
  - nullbio 3mo ago
    No one is ignoring the other half, the feud is rooted in Anthropic's insatiable desire for power and control over everyone and everything, including the administration. The same desire that is fueling the strategic fearmongering campaign underpins all of their behavior and the repercussions and sentiment they're facing from the administration and the general public. If their company hadn't been posturing like this for 5 years they'd have played ball with the administration like all of the other AI companies and they wouldn't have caught all that heat and taken down the AI industry with them. Just remember that Dario was pushing the narrative that GPT 2 was too dangerous to release to the public, while he was working at OpenAI. GPT 2! Now it's an inevitability that China takes the lead - which was probably the case anyway, but a certainty if this continues.
    - ceejayoz 3mo ago
      > No one is ignoring the other half, the feud is rooted in Anthropic's insatiable desire for power and control over everyone and everything, including the administration. Again, this is ignoring half of it. See what they did to Intel prior: https://www.cnn.com/2025/08/07/business/intel-ceo-resign-trump https://www.cnn.com/2025/08/07/business/intel-ceo-resign-tru... "President Donald Trump on Thursday demanded the resignation of Intel CEO Lip-Bu Tan following reports and allegations that he has ties to China." https://www.cnbc.com/2025/08/11/intel-ceo-trump-lip-bu-tan.html https://www.cnbc.com/2025/08/11/intel-ceo-trump-lip-bu-tan.h... "President Donald Trump said Monday that he and members of his cabinet met with Intel CEO Lip-Bu Tan, days after he called on the head of the chipmaker to resign. Intel shares rose 2% in extended trading." https://newsroom.intel.com/corporate/intel-and-trump-administration-reach-historic-agreement https://newsroom.intel.com/corporate/intel-and-trump-adminis... "U.S. Government to make $8.9 billion investment in Intel common stock as company builds upon its more than $100 billion expansion of resilient semiconductor supply chain." This make them Intel's largest shareholder. Reminder: the American right went all the way to SCOTUS (successfully! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Masterpiece_Cakeshop_v._Colorado_Civil_Rights_Commission https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Masterpiece_Cakeshop_v._Colora...) on the legal theory that businesses must have the right to decline customers they don't like. > Just remember that Dario was pushing the narrative that GPT 2 was too dangerous to release to the public, while he was working at OpenAI. GPT 2! Is that truly outrageous? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicago_Pile-1 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicago_Pile-1 wasn't dangerous on its own. But it led to the Tsar Bomba.
Alifatisk 3mo ago
I seriously do not comprehend how a consumer like you can have sympathy for Anthropic, as if you are part of their organisation or something. Competition is good for us. Wouldn't it have been for asian labs, we would would be fully dependent on OpenAI, Anthropic and Googles services.
dang 3mo ago
Please don't take HN threads into flamewar hell. It's not what this site is for, and destroys what it is for. The idea here is: if you have a substantive point, make it thoughtfully; if not, please don't comment until you do. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

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Anthropic just stole the internet and put it in a transformer and pat itself on the back for it - well no to be honest we have to suffer through hearing them saying that this model is really really dangerous until they got a reaction for they fear mongering

itsdesmond 3mo ago

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I_am_tiberius 3mo ago
+1
- Zetaphor 3mo ago
  Please use the upvote button instead of doing this.
renoir 3mo ago
This exactly. YC companies literally steal competing company 1:1 and you turn blindeye. Then a thief steals from a thief to give it out at better prices than you write low quality comment. Shame that America will greet 250th anniversary with this kind living in it.
- ce3d 3mo ago
  [flagged]
  - cindyllm 3mo ago
    [dead]
  - wise_young_man 3mo ago
    You made a new account to post this?
- surgical_fire 3mo ago
  It's only immoral when others steal.
prng2021 3mo ago
Thanks for the irrelevant comment. I’m criticizing these Chinese companies because these aren’t accomplishments. Where did I praise Anthropic?
dang 3mo ago
Please don't take HN threads further into flamewar hell. It's not what this site is for, and destroys what it is for. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

ceejayoz 3mo ago

https://www.npr.org/2025/09/05/g-s1-87367/anthropic-authors-settlement-pirated-chatbot-training-material https://www.npr.org/2025/09/05/g-s1-87367/anthropic-authors-... Seems like a bit of karmic justice.

visha1v 3mo ago

they mined the internet first. now they’re upset someone brought a shovel.

TheGoddessInari 3mo ago

Both of the mentioned models are model orchestrators using a vastly different multi model paradigm. Saying they in particularare distilled from Anthropic is really [citation needed].

nullbio 3mo ago

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ceejayoz 3mo ago
> Now no one can access ChatGPT 5.6 because of their 5 year long fearmongering regulatory capture campaign. I'm sympathetic to this arguement, but it's silly to ignore the other half; that the administration has openly feuding with them for months over limits to military capabilities. https://www.politico.com/news/2026/06/04/hegseth-anthropic-designation-supply-chain-risk-00951183 https://www.politico.com/news/2026/06/04/hegseth-anthropic-d...
- nullbio 3mo ago
  No one is ignoring the other half, the feud is rooted in Anthropic's insatiable desire for power and control over everyone and everything, including the administration. The same desire that is fueling the strategic fearmongering campaign underpins all of their behavior and the repercussions and sentiment they're facing from the administration and the general public. If their company hadn't been posturing like this for 5 years they'd have played ball with the administration like all of the other AI companies and they wouldn't have caught all that heat and taken down the AI industry with them. Just remember that Dario was pushing the narrative that GPT 2 was too dangerous to release to the public, while he was working at OpenAI. GPT 2! Now it's an inevitability that China takes the lead - which was probably the case anyway, but a certainty if this continues.
  - ceejayoz 3mo ago
    > No one is ignoring the other half, the feud is rooted in Anthropic's insatiable desire for power and control over everyone and everything, including the administration. Again, this is ignoring half of it. See what they did to Intel prior: https://www.cnn.com/2025/08/07/business/intel-ceo-resign-trump https://www.cnn.com/2025/08/07/business/intel-ceo-resign-tru... "President Donald Trump on Thursday demanded the resignation of Intel CEO Lip-Bu Tan following reports and allegations that he has ties to China." https://www.cnbc.com/2025/08/11/intel-ceo-trump-lip-bu-tan.html https://www.cnbc.com/2025/08/11/intel-ceo-trump-lip-bu-tan.h... "President Donald Trump said Monday that he and members of his cabinet met with Intel CEO Lip-Bu Tan, days after he called on the head of the chipmaker to resign. Intel shares rose 2% in extended trading." https://newsroom.intel.com/corporate/intel-and-trump-administration-reach-historic-agreement https://newsroom.intel.com/corporate/intel-and-trump-adminis... "U.S. Government to make $8.9 billion investment in Intel common stock as company builds upon its more than $100 billion expansion of resilient semiconductor supply chain." This make them Intel's largest shareholder. Reminder: the American right went all the way to SCOTUS (successfully! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Masterpiece_Cakeshop_v._Colorado_Civil_Rights_Commission https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Masterpiece_Cakeshop_v._Colora...) on the legal theory that businesses must have the right to decline customers they don't like. > Just remember that Dario was pushing the narrative that GPT 2 was too dangerous to release to the public, while he was working at OpenAI. GPT 2! Is that truly outrageous? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicago_Pile-1 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicago_Pile-1 wasn't dangerous on its own. But it led to the Tsar Bomba.

Alifatisk 3mo ago

I seriously do not comprehend how a consumer like you can have sympathy for Anthropic, as if you are part of their organisation or something. Competition is good for us. Wouldn't it have been for asian labs, we would would be fully dependent on OpenAI, Anthropic and Googles services.

dang 3mo ago

Please don't take HN threads into flamewar hell. It's not what this site is for, and destroys what it is for. The idea here is: if you have a substantive point, make it thoughtfully; if not, please don't comment until you do. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html