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Örebropartiet is not a extremist far-right party. All their policies is extreme far-left except immigration. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%96rebro_Party ht

Örebropartiet is not a extremist far-right party. All their policies is extreme far-left except immigration. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%96rebro_Party https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%96rebro_Party

vrganj 3mo ago
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- fsmedberg 3mo ago
  Try radical populist left-economic-leaning nationalists
  - SauciestGNU 3mo ago
    Nazbols then? Equally bad.
- anonym29 3mo ago
  >they're pro-ethnical cleansing of people already living there source?
  - gpm 3mo ago
    From the wikipedia article linked above... > In 2026 ÖP party leader Markus Allard sparked controversy on several occasions. In a debate hosted by Studio3 with Liberal member of parliament Martin Melin, Allard asked: "why won't the Liberals push for deporting 100 000 social welfare-Somalis?" and in the same debate said that "Sweden belongs to the Swedes. We have to make sure that we take care of our own damn people and we must deport these damn parasites who sit and live at our expense."
    - anonym29 3mo ago
      "ethnic cleansing" is an emotionally charged term that conjures genocide in the popular imagination. It is not a good descriptive term for what can rightly be described as regressive or ultra-nationalistic migration policy.
      - gpm 3mo ago
        Ethnic cleansing is an emotionally charged term, yes, because the crime against of humanity of deporting an entire population is absolutely horrific and a very close neighbour to genocide. The proposed policy here is squarely what Rome Statute, Article 7 (1)(d) is intended to prevent. Sweden is a party to the treaty.
      - 10xDev 3mo ago
        You are essentially calling for a civil war. Reason why Russia pushes these ideas under fake "patriot" accounts.
        ShinyLeftPad 3mo ago
        Would it be a civil war if it was a law passed by elected government?
        axus 3mo ago
        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constitution_of_the_Confederate_States https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constitution_of_the_Confederat...
        ShinyLeftPad 3mo ago
        Wasn't that secession? If part of Sweden decides to separate then we could discuss it in that context I guess.
        snackerblues 3mo ago
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        phs318u 3mo ago
        Leaving aside the fact you’re a white supremacist racist as some of your other flagged/dead comments make abundantly clear, I’ll nevertheless engage with your first point. > A country has the right to determine who lives within it. This is obviously true and every country has laws in place governing immigration and different laws in place governing handling of refugees. Given in most countries the ratio of immigrants to refugees is very high, what is it you’re objecting to? Countries can change their laws and often do, after a change in government. There’s nothing intrinsically wrong with arguing for specific levels of immigration. But what you really shouldn’t do is retrospectively change the rules so that people who immigrated legally and settled in their adopted country are now threatened with expulsion. It seems to me that in a lot of the discussion around immigration there is a subtext of “I don’t like how they behave/think/choose to live.” Which would be fine if people were honest about what they want - in which case, feel free to agitate for laws governing citizens’ behaviour. Don’t be a bad sport however if such laws don’t get passed. Another thing that apparently worries some people is criminality (as if that’s a function of race). By definition, something is criminal if it’s against the law. So enforce the law. Laws are typically not racist and criminals come in all flavours.
    - belorn 3mo ago
      There aren't even 100 000 Somalians living in Sweden, so it would be quite hard to deport 100 000 social welfare-Somalis. People born in Somalia is the 7th largest group of immigrants, and makes up for the largest group if we only look at African nations. The real number is around half, 67000. Now if we assume social welfare-Somalis is a derogatory generalization of all kind of immigrates, including non-Somalis, then it is likely to be more than 100 000 immigrants that is on social welfare. They just won't all be Somalis, or even be the majority of them.
    - bvcp 3mo ago
      did india ethnical cleanse out the british when they expelled even british indian born nationals?
      - vrganj 3mo ago
        Yes.
- elzbardico 3mo ago
  People living there that should not be living there. It was basically an invasion.
- Saline9515 3mo ago
  There are many flavors of national socialism, in reality nazis should be called hitlerians because of this.
whalesalad 3mo ago
Wild. I spent about 3 months living in Örebro while on contract with a company based there.
gpm 3mo ago
This sounds very much far right and not left at all to me > Markus Allard takes inspiration from marxist ideology[32] and unites the "productive" classes of society against the "Transferiat", with the "Transferiat" being a term coined by Allard to describe the classes of society that lives off of transfers that are a net negative for society such as those who, despite having an ability to work, live off of social welfare benefits, as well as those who work "made-up services"[33] that the party deems serve no societal function, such as bureaucrats, consultants, public sector communications specialists, strategists and HR-specialists. It's practically a copy and paste of the ideology behind "doge".
- ShinyLeftPad 3mo ago
  By your logic USSR was far right.
  - gpm 3mo ago
    No, I'm fairly sure you could not find a quote like that about the USSR.
    - deleted 3mo ago
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    - ShinyLeftPad 3mo ago
      You would be wrong. The people you described were called "тунеядцы" in USSR. With a possible exception of bureaucrats who existed as a result of centralized government but were also called "a barrier for the working class" by Lenin etc. I also highly doubt USSR would accommodate people who move in and don't bother to integrate into the culture and speak Russian. Ask people from entire countries where Moscow did Russification, and those people didn't even move in from outside they already lived there.
      - int_19h 3mo ago
        > I also highly doubt USSR would accommodate people who move in and don't bother to integrate into the culture and speak Russian USSR was schizophrenic in that regard. Early on, it had https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korenizatsiia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korenizatsiia, which was quite literally about de-russifying the local elites and promoting local languages. Then Stalin did a hard 180 on that, like he did on so many other things (e.g. re-criminalizing abortion and homosexuality, or reintroducing paid high school). I don't think it's unreasonable to argue that under Stalin, the USSR truly switched from being a left totalitarian dictatorship to right totalitarian.
josefritzishere 3mo ago
Seems more complicated than that, in reading the wiki.
ortusdux 3mo ago
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horseshoe_theory https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horseshoe_theory

vrganj 3mo ago

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fsmedberg 3mo ago
Try radical populist left-economic-leaning nationalists
- SauciestGNU 3mo ago
  Nazbols then? Equally bad.
anonym29 3mo ago
>they're pro-ethnical cleansing of people already living there source?
- gpm 3mo ago
  From the wikipedia article linked above... > In 2026 ÖP party leader Markus Allard sparked controversy on several occasions. In a debate hosted by Studio3 with Liberal member of parliament Martin Melin, Allard asked: "why won't the Liberals push for deporting 100 000 social welfare-Somalis?" and in the same debate said that "Sweden belongs to the Swedes. We have to make sure that we take care of our own damn people and we must deport these damn parasites who sit and live at our expense."
  - anonym29 3mo ago
    "ethnic cleansing" is an emotionally charged term that conjures genocide in the popular imagination. It is not a good descriptive term for what can rightly be described as regressive or ultra-nationalistic migration policy.
    - gpm 3mo ago
      Ethnic cleansing is an emotionally charged term, yes, because the crime against of humanity of deporting an entire population is absolutely horrific and a very close neighbour to genocide. The proposed policy here is squarely what Rome Statute, Article 7 (1)(d) is intended to prevent. Sweden is a party to the treaty.
    - 10xDev 3mo ago
      You are essentially calling for a civil war. Reason why Russia pushes these ideas under fake "patriot" accounts.
      - ShinyLeftPad 3mo ago
        Would it be a civil war if it was a law passed by elected government?
        axus 3mo ago
        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constitution_of_the_Confederate_States https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constitution_of_the_Confederat...
        ShinyLeftPad 3mo ago
        Wasn't that secession? If part of Sweden decides to separate then we could discuss it in that context I guess.
      - snackerblues 3mo ago
        [flagged]
        phs318u 3mo ago
        Leaving aside the fact you’re a white supremacist racist as some of your other flagged/dead comments make abundantly clear, I’ll nevertheless engage with your first point. > A country has the right to determine who lives within it. This is obviously true and every country has laws in place governing immigration and different laws in place governing handling of refugees. Given in most countries the ratio of immigrants to refugees is very high, what is it you’re objecting to? Countries can change their laws and often do, after a change in government. There’s nothing intrinsically wrong with arguing for specific levels of immigration. But what you really shouldn’t do is retrospectively change the rules so that people who immigrated legally and settled in their adopted country are now threatened with expulsion. It seems to me that in a lot of the discussion around immigration there is a subtext of “I don’t like how they behave/think/choose to live.” Which would be fine if people were honest about what they want - in which case, feel free to agitate for laws governing citizens’ behaviour. Don’t be a bad sport however if such laws don’t get passed. Another thing that apparently worries some people is criminality (as if that’s a function of race). By definition, something is criminal if it’s against the law. So enforce the law. Laws are typically not racist and criminals come in all flavours.
  - belorn 3mo ago
    There aren't even 100 000 Somalians living in Sweden, so it would be quite hard to deport 100 000 social welfare-Somalis. People born in Somalia is the 7th largest group of immigrants, and makes up for the largest group if we only look at African nations. The real number is around half, 67000. Now if we assume social welfare-Somalis is a derogatory generalization of all kind of immigrates, including non-Somalis, then it is likely to be more than 100 000 immigrants that is on social welfare. They just won't all be Somalis, or even be the majority of them.
  - bvcp 3mo ago
    did india ethnical cleanse out the british when they expelled even british indian born nationals?
    - vrganj 3mo ago
      Yes.
elzbardico 3mo ago
People living there that should not be living there. It was basically an invasion.
Saline9515 3mo ago
There are many flavors of national socialism, in reality nazis should be called hitlerians because of this.

whalesalad 3mo ago

Wild. I spent about 3 months living in Örebro while on contract with a company based there.

gpm 3mo ago

This sounds very much far right and not left at all to me > Markus Allard takes inspiration from marxist ideology[32] and unites the "productive" classes of society against the "Transferiat", with the "Transferiat" being a term coined by Allard to describe the classes of society that lives off of transfers that are a net negative for society such as those who, despite having an ability to work, live off of social welfare benefits, as well as those who work "made-up services"[33] that the party deems serve no societal function, such as bureaucrats, consultants, public sector communications specialists, strategists and HR-specialists. It's practically a copy and paste of the ideology behind "doge".

ShinyLeftPad 3mo ago
By your logic USSR was far right.
- gpm 3mo ago
  No, I'm fairly sure you could not find a quote like that about the USSR.
  - deleted 3mo ago
    [deleted]
  - ShinyLeftPad 3mo ago
    You would be wrong. The people you described were called "тунеядцы" in USSR. With a possible exception of bureaucrats who existed as a result of centralized government but were also called "a barrier for the working class" by Lenin etc. I also highly doubt USSR would accommodate people who move in and don't bother to integrate into the culture and speak Russian. Ask people from entire countries where Moscow did Russification, and those people didn't even move in from outside they already lived there.
    - int_19h 3mo ago
      > I also highly doubt USSR would accommodate people who move in and don't bother to integrate into the culture and speak Russian USSR was schizophrenic in that regard. Early on, it had https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korenizatsiia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korenizatsiia, which was quite literally about de-russifying the local elites and promoting local languages. Then Stalin did a hard 180 on that, like he did on so many other things (e.g. re-criminalizing abortion and homosexuality, or reintroducing paid high school). I don't think it's unreasonable to argue that under Stalin, the USSR truly switched from being a left totalitarian dictatorship to right totalitarian.

josefritzishere 3mo ago

Seems more complicated than that, in reading the wiki.

ortusdux 3mo ago

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horseshoe_theory https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horseshoe_theory