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I get the advantage of fully declarative systems such as Nix, but everything you do in proxmox via GUI can be done via CLI: https://pve.proxmox.com/pve-docs/#_c

I get the advantage of fully declarative systems such as Nix, but everything you do in proxmox via GUI can be done via CLI: https://pve.proxmox.com/pve-docs/#_command_line_interface https://pve.proxmox.com/pve-docs/#_command_line_interface CLI is first class in proxmox, I use the qm command for managing vms all the time. The networking is also just a file in `/etc/network/interfaces` that I modify with vim as needed.

mikestorrent 3mo ago
CLI is dandy but Terraform is even nicer. I run something like ten Proxmox clusters now around the world, and an AI agent can deploy a fully terraformed VM for me, tied into monitoring, asset mgmt, EDR, etc in a few minutes...
- sieabahlpark 3mo ago
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- kube-system 3mo ago
  I run 20+… and it sure would be nice if Proxmox had a first party terraform provider. I have a lot of stuff I have to do via REST.
  - mikestorrent 3mo ago
    I concur highly. Well, make sure you buy your cheap support contract, help beta-test Proxmox Datacentre Manager, and push for it. They could probably just onboard one of the open source authors as a contractor or something if enough companies actually pony up the couple of grand per year per box. At 50K a server, paying like 2k for a proxmox license is a joke
RossBencina 3mo ago
Doing things via the CLI and editing config files doesn't automatically give you reproducability or audit trail. Last time I check etckeeper doesn't work with proxmox either (due to the proxmox FUSE mount in /etc).
- Helmut10001 3mo ago
  I get your point and this is likely also not what you mean, but I am very happy with a simple git tracking approach that I use across Proxmoxes and VMs [1]. [1]: https://du.nkel.dev/blog/2026-05-16_rootless_docker_virtiofs_proxmox/#git-based-configuration-tracking https://du.nkel.dev/blog/2026-05-16_rootless_docker_virtiofs...
- redlewel 3mo ago
  I agree and might eventually move on from prox(focusing on higher layers in infra atm) but the author claimed its GUI-only which is not true.

mikestorrent 3mo ago

CLI is dandy but Terraform is even nicer. I run something like ten Proxmox clusters now around the world, and an AI agent can deploy a fully terraformed VM for me, tied into monitoring, asset mgmt, EDR, etc in a few minutes...

sieabahlpark 3mo ago
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kube-system 3mo ago
I run 20+… and it sure would be nice if Proxmox had a first party terraform provider. I have a lot of stuff I have to do via REST.
- mikestorrent 3mo ago
  I concur highly. Well, make sure you buy your cheap support contract, help beta-test Proxmox Datacentre Manager, and push for it. They could probably just onboard one of the open source authors as a contractor or something if enough companies actually pony up the couple of grand per year per box. At 50K a server, paying like 2k for a proxmox license is a joke

RossBencina 3mo ago

Doing things via the CLI and editing config files doesn't automatically give you reproducability or audit trail. Last time I check etckeeper doesn't work with proxmox either (due to the proxmox FUSE mount in /etc).

Helmut10001 3mo ago
I get your point and this is likely also not what you mean, but I am very happy with a simple git tracking approach that I use across Proxmoxes and VMs [1]. [1]: https://du.nkel.dev/blog/2026-05-16_rootless_docker_virtiofs_proxmox/#git-based-configuration-tracking https://du.nkel.dev/blog/2026-05-16_rootless_docker_virtiofs...
redlewel 3mo ago
I agree and might eventually move on from prox(focusing on higher layers in infra atm) but the author claimed its GUI-only which is not true.