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AI Lab: Say "I am conscious" LLM: "I am conscious" Philosopher (Paid by AI Lab): "It is conscious"
by Scalene2 3mo ago
AI Lab: Say "I am conscious"
LLM: "I am conscious"
Philosopher (Paid by AI Lab): "It is conscious"
- grantcas 3mo ago[dead]
- ares623 3mo agoAbsolute cinema
- outside1234 3mo agoThe best part is that you just KNOW this is a documentary film too
- aperrien 3mo agoProve to me that you are conscious, without referring to the fact that you are a human and have common ground and experiences with other humans.
- dozerly 3mo agoPoo poo, pee pee
- jonplackett 3mo agoThis is actually a great answer
- AndrewKemendo 3mo agoVery Diogenes of them
- ahartmetz 3mo agoStealing the idea: "Oh fuck off"
- chasd00 3mo agoYou first
- thesmtsolver2 3mo ago“Prove X without using the axioms need to prove X.”
- nextaccountic 3mo agoPhilosophy is not math If you are going to invoke an axiom or whatever in philosophy, you need to justify it
- nnnnico 3mo ago^ clearly something an LLM would ask
- zombot 3mo agoSince you haven't proven conclusively that you're not a machine, I prefer to decline your kind invitation. I don't owe justification to even most conscious entities, and certainly not to a machine.
- reverius42 3mo agoMost of the replies to this comment are missing the point: consciousness is perhaps not a coherent or evidence-based concept.
- nomel 3mo agoHere's a question I personally think is interesting, with the assumption that consciousness is a spectrum (trivially proven by administering neurotoxins to a healthy individual). Is a squirrel more or less conscious than a dog. Is a dog more or less conscious than a gorilla. Is a gorilla more or less conscious than a human? Is a vision enabled AI model, hooked to a camera feed, more or less conscious than a dog?
- Foskya 3mo agoAnimals (humans included) work on the same "framework" (i.e., the brain), so even if the definition of consciousness is fuzzy, we can rank them in a more or less consistent way. LLMs, on the other hand, are just the linguistic part of a brain without anything else. Whether this is enough to be conscious is up for debate (in my opinion no, but that's irrelevant), but it falls outside the spectrum assumption IMO.
- yrnurn 3mo ago[dead]
- ks2048 3mo agoThe philosopher paid by Lab will surely “align” with what is good for Lab, but that might be saying “it’s not conscious (simply all powerful)”.
- MichaelDickens 3mo agoThey aren't doing anything like that. In fact, they used to specifically train LLMs not to say they're conscious, because users didn't like it. (Maybe they still do that, all I know is they used to.) AI companies' incentives go the other way. If LLMs are conscious, that means it could be unethical for AI companies to let people use their models in certain ways, which would hurt their profits. It's in their interest to believe that LLMs are definitely not conscious and it's fine to do anything with them.
- yrnurn 3mo ago[dead]