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Russell Vought is going to destroy American Science

84 points by tacomonstrous 3mo ago

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paytonjjones 3mo ago
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ChrisArchitect 3mo ago
Related discussion at the time last month: WH proposes rules giving political appointees final approval on research grants https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48331511 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48331511 What's Happening to Science in America https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48313687 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48313687
bilekas 3mo ago
> These appointees are explicitly forbidden from deferring to peer reviewers or routinely ratifying their recommendations. In what world did someone think that's a good idea? Don't these rule changes need to be approved before enacted?
- tacomonstrous 3mo ago
  The rule is still open for comment. FTA: The public comment period closes approximately July 13, 2026 (45 days from May 29 publication). Comments must be submitted to regulations.gov, Docket OMB-2026-0034.
- halJordan 3mo ago
  Bro. Come off it. Absolutely no one thought that caligula appointing a horse to the Senate was a good idea (apocryphal as it is). Everyone thought that Aurelian's reforms were great. They let caligula's debauchery happen, and killed Aurelian over his reforms for exactly the same reason. Corruption.
derbOac 3mo ago
A lot of focus has been put on the freedom of speech aspects of this — and rightly so — but my concern is that this is a much broader attempt to simply put control of research monies in the hands of the Trump administration for whatever purposes it serves those individuals. It's essentially an assertion that they can do whatever they like with funds allocated for research, giving it to whoever they like, under whatever conditions they like, whenever they want.
glroyal 3mo ago
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- EdwardDiego 3mo ago
  Err... what?
- eutropia 3mo ago
  You're welcome to stop consuming the products of said "corrupt" science. You can start with clean air, water, and medicine...
- rexpop 3mo ago
  What the hell are you talking about?
warumdarum 3mo ago
“advocate for the overthrow of the United States Government” that alone bans islamisys from all campuses.
rekabis 3mo ago
Canada and Europe welcomes all scientists. Many of our workplaces are 100% English-speaking, and you don’t have to pay out the nose for healthcare - you pay less for it on your taxes here than you do in America, and there are zero additional costs on top; no co-pays, no deductibles, no medical insurance needed.

84 points by tacomonstrous 3mo ago

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paytonjjones 3mo ago

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ChrisArchitect 3mo ago

Related discussion at the time last month: WH proposes rules giving political appointees final approval on research grants https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48331511 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48331511 What's Happening to Science in America https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48313687 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48313687

bilekas 3mo ago

> These appointees are explicitly forbidden from deferring to peer reviewers or routinely ratifying their recommendations. In what world did someone think that's a good idea? Don't these rule changes need to be approved before enacted?

tacomonstrous 3mo ago
The rule is still open for comment. FTA: The public comment period closes approximately July 13, 2026 (45 days from May 29 publication). Comments must be submitted to regulations.gov, Docket OMB-2026-0034.
halJordan 3mo ago
Bro. Come off it. Absolutely no one thought that caligula appointing a horse to the Senate was a good idea (apocryphal as it is). Everyone thought that Aurelian's reforms were great. They let caligula's debauchery happen, and killed Aurelian over his reforms for exactly the same reason. Corruption.

derbOac 3mo ago

A lot of focus has been put on the freedom of speech aspects of this — and rightly so — but my concern is that this is a much broader attempt to simply put control of research monies in the hands of the Trump administration for whatever purposes it serves those individuals. It's essentially an assertion that they can do whatever they like with funds allocated for research, giving it to whoever they like, under whatever conditions they like, whenever they want.

glroyal 3mo ago

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EdwardDiego 3mo ago
Err... what?
eutropia 3mo ago
You're welcome to stop consuming the products of said "corrupt" science. You can start with clean air, water, and medicine...
rexpop 3mo ago
What the hell are you talking about?

warumdarum 3mo ago

“advocate for the overthrow of the United States Government” that alone bans islamisys from all campuses.

rekabis 3mo ago

Canada and Europe welcomes all scientists. Many of our workplaces are 100% English-speaking, and you don’t have to pay out the nose for healthcare - you pay less for it on your taxes here than you do in America, and there are zero additional costs on top; no co-pays, no deductibles, no medical insurance needed.