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To go by the numbers, it's pretty good. Not as good as the truly anomalous post-pandemic peak of hiring. But still good compared to almost every other occupatio

To go by the numbers, it's pretty good. Not as good as the truly anomalous post-pandemic peak of hiring. But still good compared to almost every other occupational group. https://www.comptia.org/en-us/resources/research/tech-jobs-report/ https://www.comptia.org/en-us/resources/research/tech-jobs-r...

MeetingsBrowser 3mo ago
I don’t know how to make the statistics match my perceived reality. Both in this thread, and people I know in real life who are looking for jobs are struggling hard. Mass layoffs are becoming more common and the time spent between jobs is measured in six month increments. And yet, the numbers say we are in a hiring market with more job openings than ever, except for during the pandemic. My perceived reality and the numbers almost could not be further apart.
- WorldMaker 3mo ago
  It reminds me of 2008/2009, but weirder. I remember in that time a lot of companies going through the motions as if everything was alright and they were still hiring just fine, but then not actually hiring in the way they were acting. It seems weirder now partly because it isn't a clear across the board recession, though part of me keeps looking at quarterly earnings reports and the DOW and keeps wondering if we're still "early 2008" on that rather than "late 2009" and that it will get worse before it gets better.
- Varelion 3mo ago
  Why would the (USA) job numbers be real? We have yes-men at every level, purposefully installed to spin any and everything in the most positive light possible. And, if not, outright fabricate numbers.
  - bwestergard 3mo ago
    Former BLS officials still believe the numbers are reliable, because the methodology is public and there are lots of ways for well-financed actors (e.g. wall street traders) to spot manipulation. https://www.npr.org/2025/09/05/nx-s1-5530733/bls-jobs-report-labor-statistics-trump https://www.npr.org/2025/09/05/nx-s1-5530733/bls-jobs-report...
- wc_nomad 3mo ago
  Same, I'm at about a 40% ghost rate & 5% response for any applications I put out. Most everyone I talk with is looking as well, but nobody has moved roles. It feels like were all stuck.
  - icedchai 3mo ago
    Yep, I feel stuck. Almost everyone I talk to is unhappy.
    - Silo2569 3mo ago
      Just wanted you to know you're not alone. Most people in my company are on in the same boat. Tenures keep rising.
- icedchai 3mo ago
  Same. I'm still employed, but am looking. I've had a few interviews but they're all for jobs I wouldn't really want. I know talented people who were laid off and have been looking for 6 to 9 months+. It's very rough out there. I've witnessed the dot-com crash, great financial crisis... this is the worst I've seen. Maybe other industries are better.
  - turbojobapply 3mo ago
    I am working on a system to scan ATS sites and help Job Seekers fight back against ATS AI if your interested in trying it out, https://turbojobapply.com https://turbojobapply.com
sixtyj 3mo ago
Thanks. For those who are interested are some number from the report: The 1st number is for May, the second is “vs April”: TECH SECTOR EMPLOYMENT PC, Semiconductor, Components Mfg. 993,300 +900 Telecommunications 574,300 -400 Cloud Infrastructure, Data Processing, Hosting 466,100 +3,700 Other Info Services, Search, Platforms 180,600 +900 IT & Custom Software Services | Sys. Design 2,373,900 +1,700 TECH JOB POSTING ACTIVITY Software Developer / Engineer 57,386 +2,052 Systems Engineer 25,557 +624 Tech Support Specialist 15,897 +209 Cybersecurity Engineer / Analyst 13,855 +387 Artificial Intelligence Engineer 17,267 -286
confidantlake 3mo ago
You realize that job posting is almost a completely useless metric right? We just had the biggest spam machine released in the history of humanity. Of course we are going to see huge number of spam job postings as well.

MeetingsBrowser 3mo ago

I don’t know how to make the statistics match my perceived reality. Both in this thread, and people I know in real life who are looking for jobs are struggling hard. Mass layoffs are becoming more common and the time spent between jobs is measured in six month increments. And yet, the numbers say we are in a hiring market with more job openings than ever, except for during the pandemic. My perceived reality and the numbers almost could not be further apart.

WorldMaker 3mo ago
It reminds me of 2008/2009, but weirder. I remember in that time a lot of companies going through the motions as if everything was alright and they were still hiring just fine, but then not actually hiring in the way they were acting. It seems weirder now partly because it isn't a clear across the board recession, though part of me keeps looking at quarterly earnings reports and the DOW and keeps wondering if we're still "early 2008" on that rather than "late 2009" and that it will get worse before it gets better.
Varelion 3mo ago
Why would the (USA) job numbers be real? We have yes-men at every level, purposefully installed to spin any and everything in the most positive light possible. And, if not, outright fabricate numbers.
- bwestergard 3mo ago
  Former BLS officials still believe the numbers are reliable, because the methodology is public and there are lots of ways for well-financed actors (e.g. wall street traders) to spot manipulation. https://www.npr.org/2025/09/05/nx-s1-5530733/bls-jobs-report-labor-statistics-trump https://www.npr.org/2025/09/05/nx-s1-5530733/bls-jobs-report...
wc_nomad 3mo ago
Same, I'm at about a 40% ghost rate & 5% response for any applications I put out. Most everyone I talk with is looking as well, but nobody has moved roles. It feels like were all stuck.
- icedchai 3mo ago
  Yep, I feel stuck. Almost everyone I talk to is unhappy.
  - Silo2569 3mo ago
    Just wanted you to know you're not alone. Most people in my company are on in the same boat. Tenures keep rising.
icedchai 3mo ago
Same. I'm still employed, but am looking. I've had a few interviews but they're all for jobs I wouldn't really want. I know talented people who were laid off and have been looking for 6 to 9 months+. It's very rough out there. I've witnessed the dot-com crash, great financial crisis... this is the worst I've seen. Maybe other industries are better.
- turbojobapply 3mo ago
  I am working on a system to scan ATS sites and help Job Seekers fight back against ATS AI if your interested in trying it out, https://turbojobapply.com https://turbojobapply.com

sixtyj 3mo ago

Thanks. For those who are interested are some number from the report: The 1st number is for May, the second is “vs April”: TECH SECTOR EMPLOYMENT PC, Semiconductor, Components Mfg. 993,300 +900 Telecommunications 574,300 -400 Cloud Infrastructure, Data Processing, Hosting 466,100 +3,700 Other Info Services, Search, Platforms 180,600 +900 IT & Custom Software Services | Sys. Design 2,373,900 +1,700 TECH JOB POSTING ACTIVITY Software Developer / Engineer 57,386 +2,052 Systems Engineer 25,557 +624 Tech Support Specialist 15,897 +209 Cybersecurity Engineer / Analyst 13,855 +387 Artificial Intelligence Engineer 17,267 -286

confidantlake 3mo ago

You realize that job posting is almost a completely useless metric right? We just had the biggest spam machine released in the history of humanity. Of course we are going to see huge number of spam job postings as well.