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These are the consequences of fear mongering as hard as they did. You reap what you sow. Now they need to convince the government that they didn't mean anythin

These are the consequences of fear mongering as hard as they did. You reap what you sow. Now they need to convince the government that they didn't mean anything of the previous things they claimed.

thewebguyd 3mo ago
OpenAI is also guilty of excessive fear mongering (remember GPT 2 is too dangerous to release?) This isn't 100% Anthropic's fault, although I'm sure that's part of it. This is the current corrupt administration executing on a grudge they have against Anthropic, and the government's new found love of picking winners and losers.
- yifanl 3mo ago
  OpenAI is much more eager to jump on board with the administration than Anthropic is, Altman is a lot of things, but he definitely knows which wheels need grease.
- hgoel 3mo ago
  I don't really think they're acting on a grudge against Anthropic here, I think it really is on Anthropic for describing the model's capabilities the way that they did. IIRC Anthropic claimed to have been working with the government on securing things with Mythos, but then they seemed to have been blindsided by this. My read is that the guys making the decision to restrict it were not the ones that Anthropic had been working with, and it's more about Anthropic getting caught between infighting within an incoherent government.
- 0l 3mo ago
  > remember GPT 2 is too dangerous to release FYI, this was when Dario was still at OpenAI.
- lompad 3mo ago
  That was dario amodei as well, when he was still at openai. He is the primary "create hype by claiming you're dangerous"-guy.
  - theplumber 3mo ago
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- yreg 3mo ago
  Public release of GPT (and the following models) did bring negative societal changes with it. We now live in a world where captchas don't work, astroturfing is indistinguishable, school essays and theses don't prove any learning took place, open source maintainers gradually cease to accept stranger contributions, …
  - isubkhankulov 3mo ago
    OAI wasn’t claiming any of those as dangerous. They mentioned biological warfare and massive job loss. Moving the goal post now is a bit disingenuous. GPT-2 was a gibberish generator.
AbrahamParangi 3mo ago
Nah, that's ridiculous. This admin is corrupt and idiotic and it's silly to pretend that Anthropic's actions matter except in so much as they didn't bribe the president like OpenAI did.

These are the consequences of fear mongering as hard as they did. You reap what you sow. Now they need to convince the government that they didn't mean anything of the previous things they claimed.

thewebguyd 3mo ago

OpenAI is also guilty of excessive fear mongering (remember GPT 2 is too dangerous to release?) This isn't 100% Anthropic's fault, although I'm sure that's part of it. This is the current corrupt administration executing on a grudge they have against Anthropic, and the government's new found love of picking winners and losers.

yifanl 3mo ago
OpenAI is much more eager to jump on board with the administration than Anthropic is, Altman is a lot of things, but he definitely knows which wheels need grease.
hgoel 3mo ago
I don't really think they're acting on a grudge against Anthropic here, I think it really is on Anthropic for describing the model's capabilities the way that they did. IIRC Anthropic claimed to have been working with the government on securing things with Mythos, but then they seemed to have been blindsided by this. My read is that the guys making the decision to restrict it were not the ones that Anthropic had been working with, and it's more about Anthropic getting caught between infighting within an incoherent government.
0l 3mo ago
> remember GPT 2 is too dangerous to release FYI, this was when Dario was still at OpenAI.
lompad 3mo ago
That was dario amodei as well, when he was still at openai. He is the primary "create hype by claiming you're dangerous"-guy.
- theplumber 3mo ago
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yreg 3mo ago
Public release of GPT (and the following models) did bring negative societal changes with it. We now live in a world where captchas don't work, astroturfing is indistinguishable, school essays and theses don't prove any learning took place, open source maintainers gradually cease to accept stranger contributions, …
- isubkhankulov 3mo ago
  OAI wasn’t claiming any of those as dangerous. They mentioned biological warfare and massive job loss. Moving the goal post now is a bit disingenuous. GPT-2 was a gibberish generator.

AbrahamParangi 3mo ago

Nah, that's ridiculous. This admin is corrupt and idiotic and it's silly to pretend that Anthropic's actions matter except in so much as they didn't bribe the president like OpenAI did.