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> It’s incredibly hard to naturalize in Switzerland. Less so in Germany Is it? Asking out of curiosity, from a cursory look both countries require self-suffici
by aranelsurion 3mo ago
> It’s incredibly hard to naturalize in Switzerland. Less so in Germany
Is it? Asking out of curiosity, from a cursory look both countries require self-sufficiency, language (in fact Switzerland looks a little easier on this), no criminal background, an integration test to be taken (and both seem easy) and time in the country.
Only major difference seems to me is Germany takes 5 years in paper (more like 6-7 in reality with bureaucracy) and Switzerland takes 10 years in paper.
- snowpid 3mo agoSwitzerland want less than B1? I find B1 barely can have a normal conversation.
- aranelsurion 3mo agoB1 speaking, A2 writing if my token predictor is correct. :) -- which is a little less than Germany (B1 both)
- kuerbel 3mo agoIn Switzerland they are voting on naturalisation... which means you are at the whim of people living in the same place. If you don't fit in you'll have a hard time, if they don't like you for whatever reason etc, wrong hair colour, you name it. In Germany it's an administrative act with clear demands.
- FabCH 3mo agoCitizens voting on naturalization was abolished by federal court decision since 2008. You can still be voted on by the city council though, but they are required to provide a reason and „wrong hair color“ will not pass legal challenge.
- kuerbel 3mo agoWe are both correct in a way. Local authorities can still decide applications. It's no longer a secret ballot but naturalisation commissions, local councils, municipal parliaments, or assemblies. Some decisions still make headlines though because the reasons are rather weird sometimes.