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Hello. I live in St. Paul, Minnesota. In January of this year my city was under hostile armed occupation. I volunteered for weeks packing boxes of food for peop
by SamLL 3mo ago
Hello. I live in St. Paul, Minnesota. In January of this year my city was under hostile armed occupation. I volunteered for weeks packing boxes of food for people who were afraid to leave their houses because the masked secret police were ripping people off the streets with little regard for legality. Two of my neighbors were murdered by the secret police; a hundred of us sang hymns outside the local elementary school in 20 below weather. One of those murdered was my friend's coworker. The secret police agency has so far successfully opposed any attempt to bring the murderers to justice, and indeed was trying to bring legal charges against the families of the murder victims.
Which 'F' word do you think is appropriate to describe all this? Or has meaning already been lost?
- xp84 3mo agoWe were talking about LLMs. I don't see how this is on-topic.
- charcircuit 3mo agoFear. Fear can make people act irrationally and cloud one's understanding of the lawful actions taking place around them.
- nearlyepic 3mo agoLawful doesn’t mean right. Slavery was lawful.
- charcircuit 3mo agoLaws are not immutable. Slavery is an example of something that was lawful and then society added rules against it.
- nearlyepic 3mo agoand your point is?
- charcircuit 3mo agoThat we operate as a society within the confines of the law. And the confines we exist in can be changed if the majority don't agree that something isn't right.
- estearum 3mo agoActually there are specific confines that cannot be changed by majority. Might I refer you to the US Constitution, which itself constrains which laws are flexible and which are not, and which this administration has run afoul of now on hundreds of occasions?
- int_19h 3mo agoIn US, the society didn't just "add rules against it". If you recall, the slavers first had to be beaten with a very big stick.
- whateveracct 3mo agosociety literally had to break down for years in order for us to add rules against it https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Civil_War https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Civil_War
- charcircuit 3mo agoBefore the Civil War the majority of states had already banned the practice. It had to break down in order to be able to jam in an amendment to the constitution against it. States were already in the process of banning it themselves.
- whateveracct 3mo agobut were they _all_ doing it?
- yoyohello13 3mo agoI guess anything is ok… as long as it’s ‘lawful’. No government would ever make an unjust law.
- estearum 3mo agoYou realize that creating fear in the public, especially your political opposition (i.e. blue cities), using lawful or arguably-lawful means is absolutely a hallmark of fascism, correct?
- charcircuit 3mo agoI disagree. I think that is more of a hallmark of news media or influencer culture where irrational fears can be fanned and spread throughout a populace.
- mindslight 3mo agoThank you for your service.