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> I suspect that Canada isn't fond of how Americans view guns I'm putting this into my overflowing bucket of internet comments that doesn't "get" Canadians. So
by skipants 3mo ago
> I suspect that Canada isn't fond of how Americans view guns
I'm putting this into my overflowing bucket of internet comments that doesn't "get" Canadians. Sorry to be curt but, since Canada-USA relations has been more at the forefront, I've seen too many comments that just "don't get it" and it riles me up each time.
They've had the 2nd amendment since their country was founded. It has no bearing on relations between the two countries, both at a micro and macro level.
We respect that they are their own country and have their own ways of doing things, which isn't even the same across each state. We respect US sovereignty over their own laws. It's the lack of respect for ours by the current US administration that is upsetting.
That's basically all its come down to. Oh, and the tariffs don't help either.
- selectodude 3mo agoAlso the idea that Canada is in any way anti-gun is ludicrous.
- wl 3mo agoWith very few exceptions, you can’t acquire handguns in Canada anymore. They’ve also banned most semiautomatic rifles. Maybe Canadian public opinion isn’t anti-gun, but the current government seems to be.
- selectodude 3mo agoIt doesn’t take too much effort to square the idea of being fine with firearms while not being a weapon-access absolutist. I’m able to have nuanced opinions about a lot of things that have negative externalities. Like how cigarettes kick ass but so do indoor smoking bans.
- cmrdporcupine 3mo agoAs an occasional pipe or cigar smoker... I'm personally trying to square this "cigarettes kick ass" thing with real world experience :-) Really? How?
- selectodude 3mo agoSimple. Cigarettes make you cool and hot, offering or bumming a light outside is instant chemistry to chat somebody up, and although I haven’t been a chronic smoker in probably a decade now, a drunk cig outside on a chilly night still hits like crack. It’s not the heater itself, it’s everything else about them that is 10/10.
- cmrdporcupine 3mo agoIt's funny / overall-positive to compare how we seemingly see them to how my daughter's generation (18) sees them. In my 20s in the 90s despite being a mainly-non-smoker I felt/thought as you. That's not how my daughter or her peers think though.
- selectodude 3mo agoI live in a pretty cosmopolitan city and I’m happy to report the kids are smoking free range all natural cigarettes again. Vaping is now uncool.
- cmrdporcupine 3mo agoOh these kids are all weed smokers (sigh) and eye rolling at flavoured nicotine vapers is def. a thing.
- cmrdporcupine 3mo agoRight, so. We're not anti-gun. Just anti the "only used explicitly for killing people" kind of gun. I grew up and live in rural Canada. Rifles for hunting or farming are just part of life. Though the long gun registry did make them more of a hassle. Why do you need a killing-person gun? What's that for?
- mothballed 3mo agoI'm not yielding to your premise but I'll entertain it for a moment. Massive biological differences aside, the rough composition and weight of a deer isn't so much different than a human. An AR chambered in something like 6.5 is one of the most ergonomic and effective deer killing machines you could possibly use. Very light, able to make follow up shots easily, swappable magazines, insane aftermarket availability and cheap ammunition for training because nearly the entire US military uses the parts, etc etc.
- cmrdporcupine 3mo agoI mean, I've not heard any of the hunters I know complaining about the efficacy of their hunting rifles for taking down deer, moose, or even bears.
- mothballed 3mo agoIt's my understanding hunters in Canada are often using the SKS for intermediate cartridge hunting, largely because it's/was cheap and wildly available, which was designed for killing people.
- 8note 3mo agocan you back this up with how many hunters prefer going out with handguns as their weapon of choice for hunting deer?
- mothballed 3mo agoThere's actually a shit-ton of deer hunters in the US that hunt with .300 blackout under 16" barrel AR-type weapons that are legally "handguns." In part because the handgun-length barrel makes it less unwieldy when you add a suppressor on the end (if they put a stock on it, it becomes a short barreled [baddy] 'rifle' again but for retarded vestigial legal reasons they put a "brace" on it which does the same thing but magically means you don't need an NFA stamp). Though that was not directly question posed to which I answered. It's kind of antiquated to use a "rifle"-length barrel for intermediate cartridge nowadays. The military uses a 14.5" barrel as standard issue for the AR-15 type rifle, which is "handgun" length, and most intermediate cartridges are handier and lighter in a legally handgun sized barrel for targets within the range of what you're likely to see in wooded areas. This means to use the most practical intermediate cartridge lengths you actually legally have a handgun with a "brace" on it.
- mothballed 3mo agoEveryone with a rifle and a hacksaw has ready access to a very loud handgun.