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> It worked for nine and a half hours. > Again, it wasn’t perfect. As an expert, I was able to spot some errors and omissions (some as a result of the design I
by gopalv 3mo ago
> It worked for nine and a half hours.
> Again, it wasn’t perfect. As an expert, I was able to spot some errors and omissions (some as a result of the design I had asked for) that I had the AI correct
That's the bit that stuck out to me - that's longer than I would expect to work on a problem in a day or even expect to go back & fix the output of something that has a core reward loop of hours.
My customers are currently clamoring to push down my agent response times from 85 seconds down to below the 20s mark.
At the same time, it is very dissonant to see the industry heading towards hour+ long workflows with an agent.
- matneyx 3mo agoIn Claude's defense (and I cannot believe I'm defending it), I know no single dev who could create what it did (Concord), from a 19-page design document, in 9.5 working hours. We're gonna go back to the days where our bosses ask why we're just sitting around, but instead of saying "compiling," we'll just say, "waiting for Claude."
- neogodless 3mo agoFor the rare uninitiated: https://xkcd.com/303/ https://xkcd.com/303/
- giancarlostoro 3mo agoThis. I get told things like "you can't build all that on your own?" I've had Claude poop out full feature web apps in under 30 minutes, to a spec. Was it perfect? No, but sometimes even in a simple setup phase you can burn 15 minutes to some obscure setup step that's failing. I cannot just code nonstop at 900WPM or whatever ridiculous speed, and poop out an entire full feature web app, with maybe a few bugs here or there. If you can, come show me, I'll gladly have you race against my Claude prompting capabilities. Will Claude's code be perfect in one shot? Probably not, will it get you 80 to 90% of the way there with your chosen design patterns in under a few hours? Absolutely.
- toss1 3mo ago>>If you can, come show me, I'll gladly have you race against my Claude prompting capabilities. Sounds like we've nearly reached in coding the point where Paul Bunyan [0] has his epic competition with the chainsaw... and loses by 1/4" and history forever changes... [0]https://www.britannica.com/topic/Paul-Bunyan https://www.britannica.com/topic/Paul-Bunyan
- dyauspitr 3mo agoAnd honestly, it will get you the rest of the 10-20% with a little bit of yelling at it once it’s done
- petesergeant 3mo agoSadly I didn't get very many answers to my Ask HN, "What are you doing during inference?": https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47944917 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47944917
- ModernMech 3mo agoI alt-tab to a MMO and farm XP.
- mattbettinson 3mo agoWhich one?
- ModernMech 3mo agoI've been playing Monsters and Memories, basically an Everquest clone. https://monstersandmemories.com https://monstersandmemories.com It's in private beta but sometimes they have a public beta, like just last week. They were supposed to have released this month but they pushed back to October. Also check out Adrullan Online, it's also an EQ clone but Minecraft voxel style. More like alpha status, they don't seem as far along.
- magarnicle 3mo agoDrawing.
- torginus 3mo agoI tried to read the 'design doc' - its slop full of vague platitudes and impressive sounding but impossible to pin down management speak - in short, it's slop, and I still don't really get what its supposed to do exactly. It's some prompt engineered AI harness, that guides the AI to create stats after it researches a subject and ingests the data, but I'm not sure what is it that the tool actually does on top of this.
- PeterStuer 3mo agoMy Opus 4.8 regularly works for 10+minutes on a single non-trivial coding request.
- ASalazarMX 3mo agoYour Opus 4.8? Is it now usual to refer to LLMs like that?
- giancarlostoro 3mo agoThat's pretty tame, if you want to be disturbed check out r/MyBoyfriendIsAI
- throw939494555 3mo ago[dead]
- giancarlostoro 3mo agoYou what now? lol
- w4yai 3mo agoYou don't have your Opus 4.8 ? I got mine yesterday !
- ASalazarMX 3mo agoI didn't get mine, but I suspect I might be using yours when I use it.
- wongarsu 3mo agoIsn't it common to refer to all software like that? "Let my look at my JIRA", "I can't find anything using my Outlook's search function", "My Powerpoint is acting up today", "My browser just crashed" are all sentences I might say during a normal work day
- hedgehog 3mo agoWork duration is also not that valuable of a measure, you're usually better off defining the process yourself in code and having that delegate chunks of work to the models. The only real issue there is that it's harder to take advantage of the providers' subscription discounts, but on the other hand it's easier to do your own model routing, and there's no way I've seen for the normal chatbots to maintain coherence on streams of work measured in days and weeks.
- giancarlostoro 3mo ago> At the same time, it is very dissonant to see the industry heading towards hour+ long workflows with an agent. At this point, pay me significantly more, and I'll do it.
- warkdarrior 3mo ago> pay me significantly more Ha ha, that's how you negotiate yourself out of a job!
- giancarlostoro 3mo agoFire me then, I can bring someone else drastically more value with AI tooling.
- swader999 3mo ago"I can bring your competitors drastically more value with AI tooling"
- cyanydeez 3mo agoI think we hit the sigmoid back when the QWEN models were released. By properly structuring my project, I can point it at any extension I want and get it going for 30 minutes to extend whatever. It can't effectively do 'god mode' on all the code, but being a mindful observer and code "professional" I don't need more than what a 128GB VRAM needs. I'm amazed we're so far into SOTA bloat that the chinese will kill once they start etching silicon with these models.