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Oh yes Apple "wraps" their AI in a "privacy architecture" -- you can't use Carplay unless you turn it (Siri) on.
by aorloff 3mo ago
Oh yes Apple "wraps" their AI in a "privacy architecture" -- you can't use Carplay unless you turn it (Siri) on.
- jazzyjackson 3mo ago“Sorry, I don’t know where you are”
- jasonmp85 3mo agoHow do you expect to use a nav system while driving without voice control?
- doikor 3mo agoPut in the destination before start driving? CarPlay does not work at all if you have not enabled Siri. As in it won’t even connect.
- 00kevn 3mo agoNo sense of adventure
- TylerE 3mo agoSince when? I've used Carplay for years and I've NEVER had Siri enabled. I despise voice control.
- koolala 3mo agoNever enabled it or never disabled it? Do you remember disabling it?
- TylerE 3mo agoNever enabled it. I always explicitly skip the "Setup/Enable siri" step on every update.
- intrikate 3mo agoI purchased an iPhone 15 a few months ago and ended up making this discovery myself. CarPlay would refuse to launch unless I enabled Siri. I didn't do any of the Siri setup, or anything but the app would hard refuse to launch unless I went and toggled on Siri. Maybe that's different depending on your make/model, or the specific infotainment system in your car, but in my '21 Kia Forte, Siri is a very hard requirement.
- wuliwong 3mo agoI almost never use Siri in my car and use a "nav system" every time I am driving.
- trollbridge 3mo ago[flagged]
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- windexh8er 3mo agoI am and I very much agree with you. Many Americans 1) have no idea how to drive with any common courtesy or respect and 2) many drive while texting or doing who knows what all while cutting lanes and impeding traffic. I literally see these things every time I drive. And I work from home.
- az_reth 3mo agoI set it before I start moving, and then don't touch it while in motion.
- drusepth 3mo agoBefore you start driving, at stop lights, while waiting in lines, etc. I don't know how it works on CarPlay but when I turn my car on I have a bunch of suggested addresses (home, work, parents, recent Maps searches, etc) that I just touch-to-go. Having to use voice every time you want to navigate not only sounds unnecessary, but cumbersome.
- preg_match 3mo agoYou don’t need to enable Gemini or voice assistant on android to use android auto. Some functionality is lost, of course, but you can still navigate and play music.
- adastra22 3mo agoI never use Siri when using CarPlay? I’m confused by your question.
- artursapek 3mo agoI use Carplay all the time and I didn't even realize it has voice control. I just set things up on my phone and drive.
- c1sc0 3mo agoDIt disn’t even occur to me that I need voice control. Stop car. Enter destination. Drive. How hard is that?
- Klayy 3mo agoGood luck telling Siri to drive to Hronská Breznica. Outside of English speaking countries voice control is very hit and miss (mostly miss)
- ezfe 3mo agoYes, but Siri can be turned off from invocation without turning off CarPlay. You can disable the side button and Hey Siri while leaving Siri "on."
- burgreblast 3mo agoNo disrespect for your valuable discovery but this attitude of “it’s possible, if you do these non-obvious steps” feels a lot like victim blaming in UI. If Apple (or anyone else) wanted to make a feature used, they can. For everyone else, if Siri is off CarPlay doesn’t work. And that’s by design. Not the design of “ooh if Siri is off then voice in CarPlay won’t work” (warnable), but punishment if Siri is off. Again this pattern isn’t Apple only but it’s bad everywhere.
- ezfe 3mo agoIt feels cynical to see this as a punishment when it's such a specific use case that does demonstrate deep integration with Siri. Maps, Messages, etc. use Siri for their interactions. I am sure that there was a meeting where they decided what to do when Siri was off and somebody decided (very possibly with ulterior motives) not to split the feature set - all or nothing. However I don't think the challenge they were faced with in this hypothetical meeting was an easy one. The alternative is you open the Messages app and you can't send messages. You open Maps and you can't get directions (unless parked). Sure, I get that they could show a screen saying "Sending messages is not available when Siri is disabled" but now you're hitting error messages while driving. Anyways, the main reason people would disable Siri is accidental activation, and Apple provides all the toggles needed to avoid that without disabling the core components needed for CarPlay.