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Does this include vehicle data? That's a big one. Your new car selling you out constantly.
by post_break 3mo ago
Does this include vehicle data? That's a big one. Your new car selling you out constantly.
- stronglikedan 3mo agoI've been driving connected cars for a decade and I haven't felt sold out yet. What am I missing?
- post_break 3mo agoYour driving habits, and everyone around you are impacting car insurance for example.
- ezfe 3mo agoThis is not straightforwardly true. Many people say that Toyota sells their data to insurance companies, but they do not unless you *affirmatively* opt in. If you read the lawsuits and allegations carefully, they all say that they were tricked into opting in (NOT that they weren't opted in). If you review the setup process you see that the claim is outlandish and likely someone else did setup for them or they "forgot." Toyota makes you affirmatively click a "yes" or "no" (or maybe it says "Accept" / "Reject" or whatever) for Insurance sharing when setting up a profile.
- criddell 3mo agoI bought a car earlier this year and it took about a week before I started getting car warranty junk mail for the new car.
- cogogo 3mo agoI always thought that is from companies that get their hands on registration data. Or I could be wrong and it is the dealer itself selling it on not the manufacturer.
- Loughla 3mo agoPretty sure it's registration data. Anything public is now used for junk. We transferred a piece of property this year and have been getting constant spam for realtors to sell it for us. We bought a used car from an individual and started getting spam for warranties once we registered it and got plates.
- mindslight 3mo agoJust to be clear: real estate is generally public records viewable by anybody, while vehicle titles/registrations generally aren't (without having been deliberately sold by the state).
- chaps 3mo agoAre you asking for articles that show how connected car data is being sold left and right?
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- wmf 3mo agoTail risk. Only <1% of people get punished by their car's data. IMO that's still too much.
- tencentshill 3mo agoAre you in the US? Currently if you are in the US and not native-born, you're at very direct risk. That data is how ICE builds their enforcement leads. It's still often wrong, so they might break down your door and arrest you at gunpoint anyways.
- cucumber3732842 3mo ago> That data is how ICE builds their enforcement leads Which is kind of ironic when you think about how much of their target demographic is driving 1999 Ford Rangers and 2003 Chevy Savannas. Obviously they'll just augment it with ALPR, but still.
- deathanatos 3mo ago* Massachusetts' RMV AFAICT resells one's data, resulting in new car purchasers receiving a huge amount of fraud in their mail. It can be difficult to distinguish what is a legitimate correspondence from the dealership vs. what isn't, as the fraud mail does not clearly identify itself. (And in fact, that's the tell.) * My Subaru runs ads for Sirius XM. (Ad, on the infotainment screen. While the car's in motion.) I did not pay for my car to run ads, obviously, and obviously that was never mentioned by the dealer, ever, before or after purchase.
- lightedman 3mo agoYou're missing the fact that if I wanted to find you and kill you companies are collecting that location data and I can buy it and use it to accomplish my goal.