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Your argument is a bit stretched. Women had and have a principal role in catholicism, the fact that cannot be priest is not that important or seen as discrimina

by bromuro 4mo ago

Your argument is a bit stretched. Women had and have a principal role in catholicism, the fact that cannot be priest is not that important or seen as discrimination.

darkwater 4mo ago
> the fact that cannot be priest is not that important or seen as discrimination. Says who, exactly?
- luismedel 4mo ago
  Catholics.
lukan 4mo ago
Oh my, I assume you are male? Just declaring the discrimination to be "not that important" is quite typical then (as it does not affect you) and well, my catholic aunt would disagree, but she is not important. May I ask, what the principal role of women is in catholocism, besides being good mothers?
- luismedel 4mo ago
  Politics, football (soccer) and religion are always very sensitive topics. Maybe the OP's "not that important" was an unfortunate way to put it. I think the answers you ask for are in Ordinatio Sacerdotalis[0] [0] https://www.vatican.va/content/john-paul-ii/en/apost_letters/1994/documents/hf_jp-ii_apl_19940522_ordinatio-sacerdotalis.html https://www.vatican.va/content/john-paul-ii/en/apost_letters...
- bigstrat2003 4mo ago
  Trying to argue against someone's point by bringing their identity into it is not a good argument. It is a cheap rhetorical trick that only obscures the truth, not helps to bring it out.
  - lukan 4mo ago
    And .. what is this comment if not a rhetorical trick to obscure the truth, that the catholic church is in fact deeply entrenched in gender discrimination?
goosejuice 4mo ago
> 11 A woman[a] should learn in quietness and full submission. 12 I do not permit a woman to teach or to assume authority over a man;[b] she must be quiet. 13 For Adam was formed first, then Eve. 14 And Adam was not the one deceived; it was the woman who was deceived and became a sinner. > 34 Women[a] should remain silent in the churches. They are not allowed to speak, but must be in submission, as the law says. 35 If they want to inquire about something, they should ask their own husbands at home; for it is disgraceful for a woman to speak in the church.[b] Kind of hard to believe people are ok with this now or were ever ok with this.

by bromuro 4mo ago

Your argument is a bit stretched. Women had and have a principal role in catholicism, the fact that cannot be priest is not that important or seen as discrimination.

darkwater 4mo ago

> the fact that cannot be priest is not that important or seen as discrimination. Says who, exactly?

luismedel 4mo ago
Catholics.

lukan 4mo ago

Oh my, I assume you are male? Just declaring the discrimination to be "not that important" is quite typical then (as it does not affect you) and well, my catholic aunt would disagree, but she is not important. May I ask, what the principal role of women is in catholocism, besides being good mothers?

luismedel 4mo ago
Politics, football (soccer) and religion are always very sensitive topics. Maybe the OP's "not that important" was an unfortunate way to put it. I think the answers you ask for are in Ordinatio Sacerdotalis[0] [0] https://www.vatican.va/content/john-paul-ii/en/apost_letters/1994/documents/hf_jp-ii_apl_19940522_ordinatio-sacerdotalis.html https://www.vatican.va/content/john-paul-ii/en/apost_letters...
bigstrat2003 4mo ago
Trying to argue against someone's point by bringing their identity into it is not a good argument. It is a cheap rhetorical trick that only obscures the truth, not helps to bring it out.
- lukan 4mo ago
  And .. what is this comment if not a rhetorical trick to obscure the truth, that the catholic church is in fact deeply entrenched in gender discrimination?

goosejuice 4mo ago

> 11 A woman[a] should learn in quietness and full submission. 12 I do not permit a woman to teach or to assume authority over a man;[b] she must be quiet. 13 For Adam was formed first, then Eve. 14 And Adam was not the one deceived; it was the woman who was deceived and became a sinner. > 34 Women[a] should remain silent in the churches. They are not allowed to speak, but must be in submission, as the law says. 35 If they want to inquire about something, they should ask their own husbands at home; for it is disgraceful for a woman to speak in the church.[b] Kind of hard to believe people are ok with this now or were ever ok with this.