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I think this is one of the few things as late that makes me feel genuinely proud to be British, because, beneath the hostility that feels so rife across our cou
by connorgurney 4mo ago
I think this is one of the few things as late that makes me feel genuinely proud to be British, because, beneath the hostility that feels so rife across our country recently, we’ve so many good people making things like this happen. Bravo.
- tomjen3 4mo agoIt certainly involved a lot of skill and expense, but how many more lives could be saved if the same money had been spent on improved traffic safety or NHS in general?
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- argsnd 4mo agoProbably not that many. You underestimate how expensive either of those things are. We have obligations to provide services like this to the people living in our overseas territories, and you won’t find many people who’ll oppose that.
- benj111 4mo agoTrue, but this is military expenditure. So would you rather they spend this on an exercise or on actually saving people?
- fiftyacorn 4mo agoYeah and helps demonstrate thst Tristan is strategically important
- bcjdjsndon 4mo agoI think it's rich the English dont like foreigners given how many countries they think they're entitled to posses
- fiftyacorn 4mo agoNot sure what that means. What do you think the Uk claims to own? Lots of european countries owned colonies until the post-war settlement. And immigration to UK is at an all time high so not sure on other point?
- arethuza 4mo agoImmigration to the UK is not at an all time high - both immigration and net migration are down pretty sharply: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c70989jrdweo https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c70989jrdweo
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- fiftyacorn 4mo agoThe general trend of the past years has increased immigration https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/migration-advisory-committee-report-on-net-migration/net-migration-report-accessible https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/migration-advisor... Its not an open border and the rules changed and now it is decreasing
- graemep 4mo agoAs a someone living of foreign origin living in England my experience is that it is avery friendly and accepting place.
- shermantanktop 4mo agoPeople respond to inspiring stories that show what is possible. Inevitably that means choices that might not match what a perfect allocation looks like. Quiet, bland execution in government will get you voted out. Technocrats tend to come in after corruption, but they don’t usually last.
- ninalanyon 4mo agoYou'd rather we ignored our overseas compatriots?
- bcjdjsndon 4mo agoColonists you mean.
- venzaspa 4mo agoThere's been repeated efforts to depopulate the Island by the UK government because it's expensive when you have to do drops like this - the people living there want to be there and prior to them getting there it was an uninhabited island. I'm not really sure it meets the definition of a colony in the modern sense of the word.
- gaiagraphia 4mo agoJust to let you know: Colony: "a geographical area politically controlled by a distant country" If it's verboten, then I'm guessing: All Arabs back to the Arabian peninsula? "Latin Americans" back to Europe? The removal of 98% of the USA, Australia, etc? Malagasy back to Madagascar? Sounds very genocidal... At least half of the world's population uprooted at least :/
- arethuza 4mo agoAnd the English back to various corners of north west Europe and the Scots back to Scythia!
- Arnt 4mo agoThis is a classic. It occurs in two forms: Wow, logistics to <remote place> are very expensive! We could spend that money better in the cities! Wow, logistics in <city> is expensive! We could spend that money better in rural areas! I read about a new road tunnel in London last year, a ten-digit price tag for about 1km of road IIRC. I'm 100% sure some people suggested that that money could have been better spent in rural areas.
- bcjdjsndon 4mo agoWe shouldn't be wasting a penny on colonies, this isn't the age of Napoleon anymore, get the English out of any country that isn't England.
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- loloquwowndueo 4mo agoThe one thing you seem to be missing in your anticolonialist tirades is the fact that Tristan was uninhabited. It’s not like native peoples were displaced by the British colonists, right?
- SuddsMcDuff 4mo agoThis guys comment history is absolutely wild! So utterly full of hate and ignorance. Amazing how often those two things go hand in hand.
- bcjdjsndon 4mo agoI get mad upvotes so what does that tell you
- loloquwowndueo 4mo agoKarma 98 after 8 months. What does that tell you?
- petterroea 4mo agoIt's a small price to pay to keep political control. Probably not the entire motivation here, but generally countries like keeping their remote islands and settlements lived in because it represents a claim of the land by proxy.
- walthamstow 4mo agoThe hostility is rife across social media. I don't see much of it day to day.
- andrepd 4mo agoUnfortunately, for a few years now, social media is real life...
- qsera 4mo agoAs the persons said, they are not observing it in real life. This is what I also have observed in various contexts as well. Social media is not a representation of what real people think. Most people in real life does not comment in social media, or they comment on inconsequential or trivial things....
- graemep 4mo agoSocial media gets distorted by a handful of extremists who are motivated, and by commercial interests. A lot of the nastiest stuff is not even posted by British people, but people masquerading as British: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ckgpyn30dp3o https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ckgpyn30dp3o
- frereubu 4mo agoReminds me of the Bill Hicks bit during the early days of CNN and 24-hour news channels: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGjuPJskNRE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGjuPJskNRE
- SuddsMcDuff 4mo agoI know exactly what you mean. But for me there's an even greater emotion here... relief. At a time when everything feels so utterly divided, it's such a relief to see a positive story that everyone can celebrate and feel proud of, regardless of their stance. Better, it's a story that can't be politicised one way or the other, it has a purity about it. I think if we had more positive stories like this, our political & ideological differences wouldn't seem so all consuming.
- rigonkulous 4mo agoThis is only happening in order to protect the UK states' control over the territory. Altruism isn't the priority - just the pitch. The real priority is to ensure Tristan Da Cunha remains property of the UK - which, if the colony were to fail, would be immediately endangered. This is why the imperial military is involved, not civilian organizations - the military target is to ensure the island remains the property of the UK.