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Oh and it won't be done until June 1st, so the employees can have some anxiety until then. As a treat.
by AnonGitLabEmpl 4mo ago
Oh and it won't be done until June 1st, so the employees can have some anxiety until then. As a treat.
- sausagefeet 4mo agoAt least they are honest about it: > The planning is happening openly, including a voluntary separation window. That creates real uncertainty for our team over the next few weeks, but we believe the outcome will be better for it. No good way to execute lay-offs, my preference would be to do it like a band-aid. What use is it to do it in open unless they plan on having gladiatorial matches to keep your job. Otherwise it's just like a painful game of Duck Duck Goose.
- knollimar 4mo agothe people who would leave after a layoff can do so preemptively, perhaps saving headcount for someone else?
- starkparker 4mo ago[flagged]
- jrochkind1 4mo agoif you don't like the new direction you can leave now and get the known now severance package. All in all, I think it is right to offer people voluntary severence with package when you pull the rug out from under them as far as where they thought they were working.
- strange_quark 4mo agoUnless they're going to offer offer an insane buyout, like 1+ years of pay + benefits + some accelerated vesting, nobody who doesn't already have something lined up is going to take this offer. It's much better to stay with one foot out the door and just keep cashing that paycheck and collecting your monthly vest. Especially when you know layoffs are coming, nobody expects you to do anything until they actually pull the trigger, then there's a month or two afterwards where you can slack off because morale is in the toilet, people are still trying to figure out who's left, how the company is organized, which priorities are dead, stuff like that. Ask me how I know.
- jrochkind1 4mo agoAh, what you say makes sense, ok.
- crote 4mo agoThe problem is that such voluntary separation programs tends to disproportionate attract high performers. You're losing the "10x engineer" who has stuck around because they like being here - despite getting attractive offers from the competition. The mediocre people who dread looking for a new job during a hidden recession aren't going to leave. They can't afford the risk of not being able to find a new place of employment before the severance pay runs out.
- knollimar 4mo agoI don't think people doing layoffs are thinking far ahead. In my unqualified opinion, it's either to stop burn or to generate short term profit. Neither of these groups are valuing long term expertise
- crote 4mo agoIf they were thinking far ahead, they wouldn't need to do any firing at all - they would've gradually adjusted their hiring policy in time to avoid it.
- makeitdouble 4mo agoThese high performers will leave anyway if they see their environment drastically changing or feel the tide turning, except they'll do so months after you ripped the band-aid. It's not that different from making it part of the process in the first place.
- SpicyLemonZest 4mo agoIt's defensible to have a voluntary separation program with clear terms. Microsoft, for example, announced on April 23 that a voluntary separation program would launch on May 7. On that day they announced the precise terms of separation, with affected employees given until June 8 to participate. Perfectly reasonable. What Gitlab is announcing here is that employees need to apply for a separation, at a yet-to-be-determined time under still-unknown terms, without a guarantee of acceptance, in the next 7 calendar days. Much different and just so much worse.
- Lihh27 4mo agothe order here is backwards. publish the package first and let people apply without committing. right now GitLab gets the signal before employees even get the terms.
- MeetingsBrowser 4mo agosort of a Michael Scott approach of asking people to quit so they don't have to fire anyone.
- anonymars 4mo agoSurely it's the low performers that are going to quit for new jobs!
- haute_cuisine 4mo agoCan someone explain why they're using terms like "voluntary separation window" instead of more natural language?
- bombcar 4mo agoHow would you describe “our best employees can take a severance package”?
- haute_cuisine 4mo agocan't find this quote in the article
- bombcar 4mo agoIt’s not - but voluntary separation with severance often leads to those with the best prospects moving on; which are often the best employees-but not always.
- reaperducer 4mo agoOh and it won't be done until June 1st, so the employees can have some anxiety until then. As a treat. Plenty of time to whip up a dead man's switch.