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What sort of engineering standards are these Cybertrucks built to? Oh, very rigorous engineering standards. The wheels aren't supposed to fall off for a start.

janderson215 4mo ago
Can’t be made out of cardboard either. The Front Fell Off: https://youtu.be/3m5qxZm_JqM?si=DprOulmmDK-H76LX https://youtu.be/3m5qxZm_JqM?si=DprOulmmDK-H76LX
- ryanschaefer 4mo ago
  We’ve taken it *outside* the environment
- ClikeX 4mo ago
  I saw the title of the post, and I knew somebody would have referenced it.
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mentalgear 4mo ago
> What sort of engineering standards are these Cybertrucks built to? 'Vibe-Engineering'
jeffwask 4mo ago
The original vibe engineering
DarkNova6 4mo ago
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PI_Jl5WFQkA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PI_Jl5WFQkA
colechristensen 4mo ago
It looks like they were designed by a disruptive startup unburdened by the history and experience of designing and building cars.
- garyfirestorm 4mo ago
  ‘We threw the rule book out of the window’
  - tech4all 4mo ago
    Also worked very well for the Oceangate Titan submersible.
- 7e 4mo ago
  A 23 year old startup.
- raverbashing 4mo ago
  > “brake rotor stud holes may crack and allow the stud to separate from the wheel hub.” Possible While mechanical failures can happen in all companies, that do sounds like an inexperienced design (maybe from Tesla, maybe from a partner?)
  - cucumber3732842 4mo ago
    I can't find pictures online but I'm assuming since it only affects the 2wd and it says if the rotor cracks the stud might leave that the rotor is also the hub. Doing a half baked job on a part for your super low volume "we only make this to advertise a low starting price" model is something just about any OEM would do. I bet their supplier just took whatever Chevy Van rotor they had that was close and modified it to fit and as a result it got a little thin somewhere. Edit: Nope, I couldn't find a picture but I found pictures of big brake kits for the 2wd and clearly it's not an old (read: cheap) integrated hub and rotor.
- cogman10 4mo ago
  It was super delayed and I think that's because they couldn't execute in all the ways they promised they would. The final product is very rushed and pretty different from the initial promises. I think they got into "Let's just ship SOMETHING" mode as the delays were getting insane.
cmxch 4mo ago
And they’ll probably just tow the recalled trucks outside the environment.
- joshstrange 4mo ago
  Into another environment?
  - ianschmitz 4mo ago
    No, no, no. it’s been towed beyond the environment, it’s not in the environment
Leonard_of_Q 4mo ago
Same standards as e.g. 2026 Audi Q8 e-tron: "Popular electric car recalled due to brake pedal problem" [1] A problem with a "screw connection" (unclear whether this is a mounting screw or it serves some other purpose) can cause the brake pedal to malfunction. or, in 2024 Audi Q4 e-tron, Volkswagen ID.3, ID.4, ID.5 and ID.7: "Dangerous error in popular electric cars: brakes can cease functioning" [2] It says that the ABS pump could drop off which would cause brake fluid to leak out which in turn causes the brakes to cease functioning. [1] https://carup.se/popular-elbil-aterkallas-for-fel-pa-bromspedalen/ https://carup.se/popular-elbil-aterkallas-for-fel-pa-bromspe... (Swedish) [2] https://nyheter24.se/nyheter/motor/1296418-farliga-felet-i-populara-elbilarna-bromsar-kan-sluta-fungera https://nyheter24.se/nyheter/motor/1296418-farliga-felet-i-p... (Swedish)
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- raverbashing 4mo ago
  > Audi Q4 e-tron, Volkswagen ID.3, ID.4, ID.5 and ID.7: > "Dangerous error in popular electric cars: brakes can cease functioning" [2] > It says that the ABS pump could drop off Using a mechanical ABS in an electric car might be part of the problem
  - formerly_proven 4mo ago
    As opposed to thoughts and prayers-based ABS?
    - Tanoc 4mo ago
      Some cars are going with entirely electrically actuated brakes, either inboard on on-hub, compared to the E-Tron which uses traditional hydraulically actuated brakes. One uses an electric motor to wind something to tighten the spring clip by pulling it that then pushes the pads to the rotor and the other uses pressure to overcome the spring by pushing the spring to compress it and push the pads to the rotor. I'm guessing Audi didn't go with entirely electric brakes because they have a reputation for being harsh and difficult to modulate with the pedal, and Audi is supposed to be both a luxury and sport brand where pedal feel is important.
crest 4mo ago
To the ones of people who like to move fast and break things.
Extropy_ 4mo ago
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48064334 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48064334
HarHarVeryFunny 4mo ago
Well, the wheels may fall off, the body panels may fall off (weak glue), but the rest of it is OK right? Well, apart from the bulletproof glass? So worst case you're rolling down the road on a chassis with no body panels, except you're not really rolling if the wheels fall off. Hmm.. good job we're not letting in those cheap Chinese EV's and sticking to this top quality homemade stuff.
- ChoGGi 4mo ago
  And the hitch might fall off when towing over a pot hole.
Hamuko 4mo ago
The same engineering standards as other Teslas are. Meanwhile, about 63% of Tesla Model Ys failed their first mandatory inspection in Finland. The Tesla Model 3 did a bit better at 59% of cars failing their first inspection for the same model year. However, they're faring a lot worse than the third worst car, the Dacia Duster, at 23%, or other EVs like the Volkswagen ID.4 at 6%. https://www.hs.fi/visio/art-2000011988306.html https://www.hs.fi/visio/art-2000011988306.html
layer8 4mo ago
At least they aren’t using Full Self Engineering (yet).
DonHopkins 4mo ago
Blame it on a loose nut behind the steering wheel.
- mrguyorama 4mo ago
  Indeed. The insane part is not that Tesla built an absolute dumpster fire of a vehicle, that was something that should have been obvious at every point. The insane part is the number of people who were somehow able to put up $120k for one, and proudly boast how awesome their new car was even though it spent most of its time in the repair shop or breaking doing very basic things, and failing to do "Truck" things that even my hatchback can manage. Presumably it's not a coincidence that so many of them were bought by brand new weed shop owners.
  - expedition32 4mo ago
    I once saw a Ferrari trying to negotiate speed bumps and a roundabout. On a road that has a 30 kilometre speed limit. For me a car is essentially a tool so it needs to be practical. But for others it's a hobby.
palata 4mo ago
Tesla standards?
dzhiurgis 4mo ago
IDK but millions of other vehicles are recalled every year and never mentioned here.
dramm 4mo ago
Rush of Australians to the comments section.

janderson215 4mo ago

Can’t be made out of cardboard either. The Front Fell Off: https://youtu.be/3m5qxZm_JqM?si=DprOulmmDK-H76LX https://youtu.be/3m5qxZm_JqM?si=DprOulmmDK-H76LX

ryanschaefer 4mo ago
We’ve taken it *outside* the environment
ClikeX 4mo ago
I saw the title of the post, and I knew somebody would have referenced it.
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mentalgear 4mo ago

> What sort of engineering standards are these Cybertrucks built to? 'Vibe-Engineering'

jeffwask 4mo ago

The original vibe engineering

DarkNova6 4mo ago

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PI_Jl5WFQkA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PI_Jl5WFQkA

colechristensen 4mo ago

It looks like they were designed by a disruptive startup unburdened by the history and experience of designing and building cars.

garyfirestorm 4mo ago
‘We threw the rule book out of the window’
- tech4all 4mo ago
  Also worked very well for the Oceangate Titan submersible.
7e 4mo ago
A 23 year old startup.
raverbashing 4mo ago
> “brake rotor stud holes may crack and allow the stud to separate from the wheel hub.” Possible While mechanical failures can happen in all companies, that do sounds like an inexperienced design (maybe from Tesla, maybe from a partner?)
- cucumber3732842 4mo ago
  I can't find pictures online but I'm assuming since it only affects the 2wd and it says if the rotor cracks the stud might leave that the rotor is also the hub. Doing a half baked job on a part for your super low volume "we only make this to advertise a low starting price" model is something just about any OEM would do. I bet their supplier just took whatever Chevy Van rotor they had that was close and modified it to fit and as a result it got a little thin somewhere. Edit: Nope, I couldn't find a picture but I found pictures of big brake kits for the 2wd and clearly it's not an old (read: cheap) integrated hub and rotor.
cogman10 4mo ago
It was super delayed and I think that's because they couldn't execute in all the ways they promised they would. The final product is very rushed and pretty different from the initial promises. I think they got into "Let's just ship SOMETHING" mode as the delays were getting insane.

cmxch 4mo ago

And they’ll probably just tow the recalled trucks outside the environment.

joshstrange 4mo ago
Into another environment?
- ianschmitz 4mo ago
  No, no, no. it’s been towed beyond the environment, it’s not in the environment

Leonard_of_Q 4mo ago

Same standards as e.g. 2026 Audi Q8 e-tron: "Popular electric car recalled due to brake pedal problem" [1] A problem with a "screw connection" (unclear whether this is a mounting screw or it serves some other purpose) can cause the brake pedal to malfunction. or, in 2024 Audi Q4 e-tron, Volkswagen ID.3, ID.4, ID.5 and ID.7: "Dangerous error in popular electric cars: brakes can cease functioning" [2] It says that the ABS pump could drop off which would cause brake fluid to leak out which in turn causes the brakes to cease functioning. [1] https://carup.se/popular-elbil-aterkallas-for-fel-pa-bromspedalen/ https://carup.se/popular-elbil-aterkallas-for-fel-pa-bromspe... (Swedish) [2] https://nyheter24.se/nyheter/motor/1296418-farliga-felet-i-populara-elbilarna-bromsar-kan-sluta-fungera https://nyheter24.se/nyheter/motor/1296418-farliga-felet-i-p... (Swedish)

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raverbashing 4mo ago
> Audi Q4 e-tron, Volkswagen ID.3, ID.4, ID.5 and ID.7: > "Dangerous error in popular electric cars: brakes can cease functioning" [2] > It says that the ABS pump could drop off Using a mechanical ABS in an electric car might be part of the problem
- formerly_proven 4mo ago
  As opposed to thoughts and prayers-based ABS?
  - Tanoc 4mo ago
    Some cars are going with entirely electrically actuated brakes, either inboard on on-hub, compared to the E-Tron which uses traditional hydraulically actuated brakes. One uses an electric motor to wind something to tighten the spring clip by pulling it that then pushes the pads to the rotor and the other uses pressure to overcome the spring by pushing the spring to compress it and push the pads to the rotor. I'm guessing Audi didn't go with entirely electric brakes because they have a reputation for being harsh and difficult to modulate with the pedal, and Audi is supposed to be both a luxury and sport brand where pedal feel is important.

crest 4mo ago

To the ones of people who like to move fast and break things.

Extropy_ 4mo ago

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48064334 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48064334

HarHarVeryFunny 4mo ago

Well, the wheels may fall off, the body panels may fall off (weak glue), but the rest of it is OK right? Well, apart from the bulletproof glass? So worst case you're rolling down the road on a chassis with no body panels, except you're not really rolling if the wheels fall off. Hmm.. good job we're not letting in those cheap Chinese EV's and sticking to this top quality homemade stuff.

ChoGGi 4mo ago
And the hitch might fall off when towing over a pot hole.

Hamuko 4mo ago

The same engineering standards as other Teslas are. Meanwhile, about 63% of Tesla Model Ys failed their first mandatory inspection in Finland. The Tesla Model 3 did a bit better at 59% of cars failing their first inspection for the same model year. However, they're faring a lot worse than the third worst car, the Dacia Duster, at 23%, or other EVs like the Volkswagen ID.4 at 6%. https://www.hs.fi/visio/art-2000011988306.html https://www.hs.fi/visio/art-2000011988306.html

layer8 4mo ago

At least they aren’t using Full Self Engineering (yet).

DonHopkins 4mo ago

Blame it on a loose nut behind the steering wheel.

mrguyorama 4mo ago
Indeed. The insane part is not that Tesla built an absolute dumpster fire of a vehicle, that was something that should have been obvious at every point. The insane part is the number of people who were somehow able to put up $120k for one, and proudly boast how awesome their new car was even though it spent most of its time in the repair shop or breaking doing very basic things, and failing to do "Truck" things that even my hatchback can manage. Presumably it's not a coincidence that so many of them were bought by brand new weed shop owners.
- expedition32 4mo ago
  I once saw a Ferrari trying to negotiate speed bumps and a roundabout. On a road that has a 30 kilometre speed limit. For me a car is essentially a tool so it needs to be practical. But for others it's a hobby.

palata 4mo ago

Tesla standards?

dzhiurgis 4mo ago

IDK but millions of other vehicles are recalled every year and never mentioned here.

dramm 4mo ago

Rush of Australians to the comments section.