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Also make sure to avoid people with smartphones and places with video surveilence.
by arowthway 5mo ago
Also make sure to avoid people with smartphones and places with video surveilence.
- HumblyTossed 5mo agoIs this an honest argument? Surely you can think of how glasses might be ... in a different league than the two items you mention?
- db48x 5mo agoNot meaningfully. Anyone holding a smartphone might be recording you. You’d better avoid them if you don’t want to be recorded.
- azan_ 5mo agoSomeone has to hold smartphone and point it at you.
- bredren 5mo agoThis line makes a valid point. People record strangers all the time. In an obvious way or trying to be sneaky. Just because you don’t notice it doesn’t mean it doesn’t happen. However, this is still a different thing than smart glasses which can further be segmented into who designed the smart glasses.
- NBJack 5mo agoMost people don't run around holding out their smartphone directly in front of them. It has to be pointed at the subject, and tends to be obvious. Smart glasses, however, are always aimed at whatever the wearer is looking at. They may or may not be recording (note the reports of people hiding the LED indicators), and at a fair distance could easily be mistaken for a normal pair. The general populace is much more likely to notice the former recording rather than the latter.
- recursive 5mo agoI've seen people keep their phone in their shirt pocket. The only reason it tends to be obvious is that most people aren't trying to be covert. Those aren't the ones you should be worried about.
- db48x 5mo agoDon’t forget that audio recording is a thing. The camera doesn’t have to be pointed at you to violate your privacy. Plus I bet you walk past 90% (or more) of all cameras without ever noticing them. You only notice someone’s glasses because they are novel, not because they are more likely to record you.
- iamnothere 5mo ago[dead]
- arowthway 5mo agoBecause person wearing glasses usually can move and video surveillance cameras usually can't? If that's not it then spell it out for me, please. Also, why would i be deceptive in this discussion? I feel like I missed some ideological conflict.
- intended 5mo agoImagine someone pulling up a smartphone and then recording everything that happens around them. Contrast that with someone wearing smart glasses and doing that exact same thing. On a separate note, (and this is a genuine question) are you by any chance aware the term Non-consensual intimate imagery / NCII? I am beginning to suspect that the average HN goer isn’t aware of the scope and scale of the Trust and Safety problem.
- throwmeaway888 5mo agoHave you heard the term non consensual intimate fantasies? I've heard it's an even bigger problem.
- intended 5mo agoWell, you would fortunately be wrong. Fantasies are commonplace and well studied in society, psychology and even in the law. The issue is when you go from fantasy to actually enacting it, which is usually when you earn the epithet of “Creep”. Also, why make a throwaway for this line? I take it you haven’t heard of NCII?
- salawat 5mo agoThey don't care. Or they refuse to realize that tech isn't the solution to it, but an amplifier of it's scale. Can tell you that my urge to take photos/record drastically dips around other people. Particularly if it were meant for any sort of commercial exploitation. Stephenson called people wired for max indiscriminate data collection/processing "gargoyles". Personally I prefer glassholes. https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/news/articles/the-borg-of-the-gargoyles https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/news/articles/the-borg-of...
- yreg 5mo agoUnless you are using these during sex I consider a microphone to be 10x more privacy intruding than a camera. Security cameras afaik usually don't record audio, but all phones can. And they don't even need to be pointed in any specific direction.
- zdp7 5mo agoMany security cameras have the ability to record audio. Depending on where you are, it might be illegal to use it. All the cams I have purchased have it. That would include ReoLink and a recommended model from the Frigate site.
- freehorse 5mo agoIf somebody was pointing a camera on me all the time? I would definitely avoid them.
- amelius 5mo agoPeople do that on my subway all the time. It's the camera of their smartphone. Not sure if it's ON though.
- voidUpdate 5mo agoThey point the camera of their smartphone directly at you?
- randallsquared 5mo agoAt everything on the opposite side of the screen, typically. There is a recording light for Meta glasses, but not one for iPhones, for example: the "recording" indicators are all user-side there.
- wolvoleo 5mo agoUsually they are pointed at the ground when they're reading off them.
- voidUpdate 5mo agoWhen I'm on public transport, people generally face their phones in such a way that they'd only be filming your feet or the floor... They don't hold them up at head height in such a way that other people would be recorded. Maybe it's just a cultural thing
- amelius 5mo agoExamples: https://www.sciencephoto.com/media/922925/view/three-people-sitting-on-a-subway-train-tokyo-commuters https://www.sciencephoto.com/media/922925/view/three-people-... https://www.istockphoto.com/nl/foto/happy-woman-using-smart-phone-while-commuting-by-bus-gm1485323947-511342012 https://www.istockphoto.com/nl/foto/happy-woman-using-smart-...
- powvans 5mo agoDon't let perfect be the enemy of good. There's also nothing stopping us from stigmatizing the use of smartphones in public. Even a slight discouragement of it would be progress. It doesn't have to be all or nothing.
- SoftTalker 5mo agoI think smartphones are a lost cause. Even at the gym, there are guys in the locker room taking pics of themselves in the mirror. Meanwhile I'm walking ass-naked out of the shower. There is just no sensitivity to appropriate time and place anymore.
- expedition32 5mo agoMan I don't even want to know how many photos I'm in. And the people who act annoyed because you are disturbing their film set as if they are James Cameron are the funniest.
- partyficial 5mo ago> Meanwhile I'm walking ass-naked out of the shower is this a Western/American thing about no shame regarding one's body in public places in the presence of other people, be it male or female? I can never imagine this happening in my country.
- SoftTalker 5mo agoWhich part? The shirtless posing for the camera in the locker room mirror, or the stepping out of the shower naked? I mean it's a locker room... it's a space meant for changing clothes and showering.
- partyficial 5mo ago> stepping out of the shower naked? i'd never step out to a place where a stranger could see me, without a towel or wet shorts covering my private bits.