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Is there really nothing like BitTorrent for git, or have we just not heard about it because of GitHub's network effects? It feels like this problem was solved l

by ghc 5mo ago

Is there really nothing like BitTorrent for git, or have we just not heard about it because of GitHub's network effects? It feels like this problem was solved long ago for binaries.

icy 5mo ago
There is! https://radicle.dev https://radicle.dev :)
- swed420 5mo ago
  From today: HardenedBSD Is Now Officially on Radicle https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47944864 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47944864
- ghc 5mo ago
  Oh, that's pretty cool! Now I can't decide whether that approach or one based on AT is better...
  - icy 5mo ago
    Pick whichever. We <3 the Radicle team and they're admittedly solving a much harder problem (gossiping git!) and rather elegantly at that.
    - pfraze 5mo ago
      Yeah I’ve met the Radicle people a couple times. I’ve never given it a thorough review but, for their goals, their designs have always seemed strong, and they’re pleasant people to chat with. The main difference was atproto wanted to tackle scale, so we went with a servers & aggregation model. Radicle is going for device-to-device networking as a primary goal.
    - Ericson2314 5mo ago
      Do you think it will be possible to use them together? Having some sort of unified distributed system is intriguing to me. (e.g. can the Radical foundation and AT-proto foundation integrate, even?)
- tensegrist 5mo ago
  the fact that you, as the creator of a "competitor", post this as-is without a "At $co, we…" run-on is a good look
- majorchord 5mo ago
  There is also ForgeFed/vervis
dtj1123 5mo ago
Radicle may be what you're after
baq 5mo ago
gittorrents were talked about and built at least 15 if not 20 years ago. the issue isn't mirroring of data, this is a solved problem. everything else that a forge does is a problem - issue tracking, PRs, reviews, CI/CD, authn, authz, secrets, audit trails, ...
- ghc 5mo ago
  BitTorrent also enabled search engines to be built easily, which created discoverability. Unfortunately it's a much harder problem for git repos, especially when competing with GitHub search.
PurpleRamen 5mo ago
Git is already distributed by itself. The management-part is what's missing (mergerequests, permissions, issues..), and it's disputable whether this is really necessary, or just a nice to have.

by ghc 5mo ago

Is there really nothing like BitTorrent for git, or have we just not heard about it because of GitHub's network effects? It feels like this problem was solved long ago for binaries.

icy 5mo ago

There is! https://radicle.dev https://radicle.dev :)

swed420 5mo ago
From today: HardenedBSD Is Now Officially on Radicle https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47944864 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47944864
ghc 5mo ago
Oh, that's pretty cool! Now I can't decide whether that approach or one based on AT is better...
- icy 5mo ago
  Pick whichever. We <3 the Radicle team and they're admittedly solving a much harder problem (gossiping git!) and rather elegantly at that.
  - pfraze 5mo ago
    Yeah I’ve met the Radicle people a couple times. I’ve never given it a thorough review but, for their goals, their designs have always seemed strong, and they’re pleasant people to chat with. The main difference was atproto wanted to tackle scale, so we went with a servers & aggregation model. Radicle is going for device-to-device networking as a primary goal.
  - Ericson2314 5mo ago
    Do you think it will be possible to use them together? Having some sort of unified distributed system is intriguing to me. (e.g. can the Radical foundation and AT-proto foundation integrate, even?)
tensegrist 5mo ago
the fact that you, as the creator of a "competitor", post this as-is without a "At $co, we…" run-on is a good look
majorchord 5mo ago
There is also ForgeFed/vervis

dtj1123 5mo ago

Radicle may be what you're after

baq 5mo ago

gittorrents were talked about and built at least 15 if not 20 years ago. the issue isn't mirroring of data, this is a solved problem. everything else that a forge does is a problem - issue tracking, PRs, reviews, CI/CD, authn, authz, secrets, audit trails, ...

ghc 5mo ago
BitTorrent also enabled search engines to be built easily, which created discoverability. Unfortunately it's a much harder problem for git repos, especially when competing with GitHub search.

PurpleRamen 5mo ago

Git is already distributed by itself. The management-part is what's missing (mergerequests, permissions, issues..), and it's disputable whether this is really necessary, or just a nice to have.