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Yeah I also don't quite understand the example on the homepage... they agreed to 50/50 and then she wanted 70/30 so now they settle on 60/40? Like this doesn't

Yeah I also don't quite understand the example on the homepage... they agreed to 50/50 and then she wanted 70/30 so now they settle on 60/40? Like this doesn't seem like a "fair" mediation it's kind of weird (obviously oversimplifying the situation a bit but nonetheless I'm not sure real world conflicts are this simple in practice)

alex43578 5mo ago
They wanted 50/50, but from the vignette Daniel didn’t continue to do 50% of the work.
- mock-possum 5mo ago
  Sure, he just continued to take sole responsibility for the production of the product, quality and quantity, while also holding down an additional job, which paid the rent. These characters have both been putting the work in. I’d be looking for a serpent at his partner’s ear, planting poisonous suggestions that she deserves more of the company they started equally. If this were real.
  - lookACamel 5mo ago
    > While also holding down an additional job That's the problem, the story is saying he stopped focusing full-time on the business in order to make his own ends meet. It looks like the main innovation of the mediator generated deal is that it attempts to reconcile by drafting a way back in to 50/50 if he recommits. The starting 60/40 split is not that important.
    - throwanem 5mo ago
      Her ends, too. They share an apartment, in the story. This is certainly an example of what I would expect from a product designed to optimize a prenup. You know, they say money ruins people, but sometimes you just have to acknowledge there was nothing really ever there decent to begin with.
      - lookACamel 5mo ago
        Yeah after re-reading the scenario it is pretty weird. The AI doesn't have enough data. There should be concrete numbers for the rent. Why wouldn't Daniel tell the LLM exactly how much it was?
        throwanem 5mo ago
        Well, I don't know, I'm sure. Totally unrelated, I hear a common piece of advice for the aspiring con artist is to avoid overcomplicating the legend.
    - gavinray 5mo ago
      He paid her rent
sanity 5mo ago
You raise a good point. The issue is presentation - leading with the 60/40 reads like midpoint arbitration, whereas the interesting part is Daniel's path back to 50/50, the management salary, the mutual waiver on the first 18 months (which is what settles his rent contribution), and the shotgun buy-sell. I've made some changes that should help with this.

alex43578 5mo ago

They wanted 50/50, but from the vignette Daniel didn’t continue to do 50% of the work.

mock-possum 5mo ago
Sure, he just continued to take sole responsibility for the production of the product, quality and quantity, while also holding down an additional job, which paid the rent. These characters have both been putting the work in. I’d be looking for a serpent at his partner’s ear, planting poisonous suggestions that she deserves more of the company they started equally. If this were real.
- lookACamel 5mo ago
  > While also holding down an additional job That's the problem, the story is saying he stopped focusing full-time on the business in order to make his own ends meet. It looks like the main innovation of the mediator generated deal is that it attempts to reconcile by drafting a way back in to 50/50 if he recommits. The starting 60/40 split is not that important.
  - throwanem 5mo ago
    Her ends, too. They share an apartment, in the story. This is certainly an example of what I would expect from a product designed to optimize a prenup. You know, they say money ruins people, but sometimes you just have to acknowledge there was nothing really ever there decent to begin with.
    - lookACamel 5mo ago
      Yeah after re-reading the scenario it is pretty weird. The AI doesn't have enough data. There should be concrete numbers for the rent. Why wouldn't Daniel tell the LLM exactly how much it was?
      - throwanem 5mo ago
        Well, I don't know, I'm sure. Totally unrelated, I hear a common piece of advice for the aspiring con artist is to avoid overcomplicating the legend.
  - gavinray 5mo ago
    He paid her rent

sanity 5mo ago

You raise a good point. The issue is presentation - leading with the 60/40 reads like midpoint arbitration, whereas the interesting part is Daniel's path back to 50/50, the management salary, the mutual waiver on the first 18 months (which is what settles his rent contribution), and the shotgun buy-sell. I've made some changes that should help with this.