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Agents will allow human programmers to get what they've been begging for decades now: proper requirements and flexible, logical, tooling.

bayarearefugee 5mo ago
> Agents will allow human programmers to get what they've been begging for decades now: proper requirements and flexible, logical, tooling. ...and once this goal is finally reached the programmer will breathe a sigh of relief and then promptly be fired since now the machine can do the job as well as they could.
risyachka 5mo ago
The tooling in 2026 is so easy you can do almost anything without AI very very quickly.
- oblio 5mo ago
  What tooling?
  - risyachka 5mo ago
    Frontend, backend, workflow engines, payments, idk all of it. Like you can make a cross-platform react native app with expo in a day without any AI (a proper app, not a boilerplate). Same with many web apps. Shadcn with themes and components, tailwind, temporal workflows, etc etc. The complexity of making apps was solved years ago.
    - oblio 5mo ago
      We must live in different worlds. Even for professionals building high quality apps is hard. It's easier with AI, but it's still quite hard. And it was definitely harder without AI.
rtpg 5mo ago
this has been my sort of big tent alignment with AI people. If I'm getting good CLI tooling that _actually works_ (or fixes to existing ones that have been busted forever) then I'm pretty happy. Things that make systems more understandable to the LLMs ... usually make things more understandable for humans as well. Usually. The biggest issue I've found is that vibed up tooling tends to be pretty bad at having the right kind of "sense" for what makes good CLI UX. So you still have awkward argument structures or naming. Better than nothing though
- volume_tech 5mo ago
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- whattheheckheck 5mo ago
  Any textbooks or resources on getting better at naming things? The Programmers Brain book was my go to
  - stavros 5mo ago
    The Design of Everyday Things.
    - kube-system 5mo ago
      The conclusion I drew from that book is that I shouldn't be naming things.
  - ramses0 5mo ago
    "How to be Unix-y in Eleventy Billion Steps" http://www.robertames.com/blog.cgi/entries/the-unix-way-command-line-arguments-options.html http://www.robertames.com/blog.cgi/entries/the-unix-way-comm... TLDR: standard list of long options <https://www.gnu.org/prep/standards/standards.html#Option-Table https://www.gnu.org/prep/standards/standards.html#Option-Tab...> and short options from -a to -z <http://www.catb.org/~esr/writings/taoup/html/ch10s05.html http://www.catb.org/~esr/writings/taoup/html/ch10s05.html>.
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jadbox 5mo ago
I've been thinking the same thing lately. It's sorta frustrating that it required bots to force tech companies to make clean simple cli driven development workflows.
qingcharles 5mo ago
It's wild that it took AI to get half the companies on the planet to actually add reasonably priced APIs to their products so I don't have to puppeteer every damn thing with a flakey harness.
fragmede 5mo ago
At the expense of no longer needing the human programmer...
canarias_mate 5mo ago
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bayarearefugee 5mo ago

> Agents will allow human programmers to get what they've been begging for decades now: proper requirements and flexible, logical, tooling. ...and once this goal is finally reached the programmer will breathe a sigh of relief and then promptly be fired since now the machine can do the job as well as they could.

risyachka 5mo ago

The tooling in 2026 is so easy you can do almost anything without AI very very quickly.

oblio 5mo ago
What tooling?
- risyachka 5mo ago
  Frontend, backend, workflow engines, payments, idk all of it. Like you can make a cross-platform react native app with expo in a day without any AI (a proper app, not a boilerplate). Same with many web apps. Shadcn with themes and components, tailwind, temporal workflows, etc etc. The complexity of making apps was solved years ago.
  - oblio 5mo ago
    We must live in different worlds. Even for professionals building high quality apps is hard. It's easier with AI, but it's still quite hard. And it was definitely harder without AI.

rtpg 5mo ago

this has been my sort of big tent alignment with AI people. If I'm getting good CLI tooling that _actually works_ (or fixes to existing ones that have been busted forever) then I'm pretty happy. Things that make systems more understandable to the LLMs ... usually make things more understandable for humans as well. Usually. The biggest issue I've found is that vibed up tooling tends to be pretty bad at having the right kind of "sense" for what makes good CLI UX. So you still have awkward argument structures or naming. Better than nothing though

volume_tech 5mo ago
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whattheheckheck 5mo ago
Any textbooks or resources on getting better at naming things? The Programmers Brain book was my go to
- stavros 5mo ago
  The Design of Everyday Things.
  - kube-system 5mo ago
    The conclusion I drew from that book is that I shouldn't be naming things.
- ramses0 5mo ago
  "How to be Unix-y in Eleventy Billion Steps" http://www.robertames.com/blog.cgi/entries/the-unix-way-command-line-arguments-options.html http://www.robertames.com/blog.cgi/entries/the-unix-way-comm... TLDR: standard list of long options <https://www.gnu.org/prep/standards/standards.html#Option-Table https://www.gnu.org/prep/standards/standards.html#Option-Tab...> and short options from -a to -z <http://www.catb.org/~esr/writings/taoup/html/ch10s05.html http://www.catb.org/~esr/writings/taoup/html/ch10s05.html>.
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jadbox 5mo ago

I've been thinking the same thing lately. It's sorta frustrating that it required bots to force tech companies to make clean simple cli driven development workflows.

qingcharles 5mo ago

It's wild that it took AI to get half the companies on the planet to actually add reasonably priced APIs to their products so I don't have to puppeteer every damn thing with a flakey harness.

fragmede 5mo ago

At the expense of no longer needing the human programmer...

canarias_mate 5mo ago

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