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I wonder how much the complete impunity of those involved with Jeffery Epstein has destroyed the faith in the executive branch? People like Leon Black, Les Wexn
by spaghetdefects 5mo ago
I wonder how much the complete impunity of those involved with Jeffery Epstein has destroyed the faith in the executive branch? People like Leon Black, Les Wexner and a couple of presidents not only escaped justice, but pretty much any scrutiny by any institution, media included. I think it's hard for people to look at that and not think they need to take the law into their own hands.
- dan-robertson 5mo agoI’m surely out of the loop here but what crimes are there evidence of Leon Black or Les Wexner having committed?
- spaghetdefects 5mo agoParticipating in the child sex trafficking ring, although Wexner's involvement goes far deeper.
- gattilorenz 5mo agoThe evidence being…
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- jlarocco 5mo agoIt blows my mind that people still think Epstein is just a big conspiracy theory and nothing happened. Pam Bondi said Epstein's black book was on her desk ready to be released, and then a month later she said it didn't exist. She couldn't have been telling the truth both times. The camera in Epstein's jail cell "failed" for the exact two minutes he was (supposedly) killing himself before magically starting to work again. Congress told the DOJ to release unredacted documents, and they said "F** you" and released redacted (properly redacted, even) documents any way. But you're asking a random guy on HN for evidence that there's a cover up and crimes going on. It's pretty clear the powers that be don't want the evidence released, or it would have been already.
- gattilorenz 5mo ago[flagged]
- ndsipa_pomu 5mo agoI think the problem is that no-one is seeing justice being done. The Epstein survivors had their names released in the publication of the Epstein files whereas the perpetrators had their names redacted. Without any serious attempt at carrying out justice, I think it's perfectly reasonable to assume that anyone associated with Epstein was part of the criminal conspiracy.
- dan-robertson 5mo agoPeople are not seeing the prosecutions they were expecting. I think some of that is because the person who would be prosecuted is dead, part of that is because the justice system makes a successful prosecution difficult (eg some people may be likely to have been victims while also not being sufficiently credible witnesses to win at court), part of this is because prosecutions that are deemed unlikely to win are not pursued, but I also think part of this is that there is a belief within parts of the public that more people associated with Epstein ought to have been guilty of something (abuse related rather than misconduct in a public office) even if there is not actually any evidence of it other than that association. That isn’t to say that many of those people weren’t acting immorally but immoral isn’t the same as illegal.
- spaghetdefects 5mo agoThose people are so deeply involved with Epstein, it's impossible to sum it up in a HN comment. Innocent until proven guilty if we have a functioning executive branch for the proving part. Epstein showed the world that we don't, which is my original point. You may not be convinced (although if you don't know who Wexner is, you're not very informed about the case). Most people do though, and they think our justice system is a fraud.
- gattilorenz 5mo ago
- sumedh 5mo agoEpstein was murdered in a high security prison so that he does not talk.
- NickC25 5mo agoLex's entire net worth was managed by Epstein, both before and after the conviction.
- ethbr1 5mo agoYeah, I think if we're wondering why having a convicted child sex offender as your tax evasion specialist is bad... well?
- NickC25 5mo agoYeah, especially that same offender who was let off easy with 12 unindicted co-conspirators because he "belonged to intelligence" and had deep ties to Mossad. Yeah, I'd totally let that guy manage my billions after all that.