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You think the US will unleash nuclear holocaust of the human race for some drone parts? The US will do none of that shit because they wont be able to do it. Gi

You think the US will unleash nuclear holocaust of the human race for some drone parts? The US will do none of that shit because they wont be able to do it. Given the US is struggling against Iran, couldn't outproduce Russia on the battlefield yet they want to force down China which is an order of magnitude bigger than Russia.

esseph 5mo ago
> struggling against Iran Idk what to tell you, but any target that seems to get marked in Iran blows the fuck up. > couldn't outproduce Russia on the battlefield ??? What does this even mean? It's not like the US is in a wartime economy.
- krisoft 5mo ago
  > Idk what to tell you, but any target that seems to get marked in Iran blows the fuck up. I’m sure that is true. And yet, the oil is not flowing. We keep “winning” like this for a few more weeks/months and we lose. Not because we sudenly stop “blowing targets the fuck up”, but because we cripple our economies.
  - jonnybgood 5mo ago
    The flowing of oil is not of primary importance to the US in this conflict. The oil was already flowing. So I think we can reasonably rule that out as an objective.
    - krisoft 5mo ago
      > The flowing of oil is not of primary importance to the US in this conflict. You think so? Then why did the US make it the condition of cease fire? Why did the US even agree to a cease fire? It is not like Iran is hurting the US mainland kinetically. > The oil was already flowing. So I think we can reasonably rule that out as an objective. Sometimes you have a thing and you don’t appreciate how important it is for you until you don’t have it anymore.
      - neoromantique 5mo ago
        Because having air frames constantly cycling in the air for six weeks straight is hard on both soldiers and air frames, so having a breather for maintenance and recovery is crucial. And Oil is not crucial for the US at all, it is hitting Europe and poor countries the most by far. (I'm from Europe)
    - senderista 5mo ago
      Oil prices are global. So are related goods like fertilizer.
  - esseph 5mo ago
    > I’m sure that is true. And yet, the oil is not flowing. The comment was alluding to impotent tactical prowess, which is... silly, to say the least. > Not because we sudenly stop “blowing targets the fuck up”, but because we cripple our economies. This whole thing is extremely stupid, yes.
- dragonelite 5mo ago
  The Russians have been blowing up what ever they want in Ukraine for like 4 years now. Yet Ukrainians are still holding on. Its well reported in the western press that the US and Europe haven't been able to outproduce the Russian side regarding shells, drones and missiles etc.
  - esseph 5mo ago
    > Its well reported in the western press that the US and Europe haven't been able to outproduce the Russian side regarding shells, drones and missiles etc. I don't think either the US or the EU have even tried to ramp up production that much. Only one of the countries listed here are in somewhat of a "wartime economy".

esseph 5mo ago

> struggling against Iran Idk what to tell you, but any target that seems to get marked in Iran blows the fuck up. > couldn't outproduce Russia on the battlefield ??? What does this even mean? It's not like the US is in a wartime economy.

krisoft 5mo ago
> Idk what to tell you, but any target that seems to get marked in Iran blows the fuck up. I’m sure that is true. And yet, the oil is not flowing. We keep “winning” like this for a few more weeks/months and we lose. Not because we sudenly stop “blowing targets the fuck up”, but because we cripple our economies.
- jonnybgood 5mo ago
  The flowing of oil is not of primary importance to the US in this conflict. The oil was already flowing. So I think we can reasonably rule that out as an objective.
  - krisoft 5mo ago
    > The flowing of oil is not of primary importance to the US in this conflict. You think so? Then why did the US make it the condition of cease fire? Why did the US even agree to a cease fire? It is not like Iran is hurting the US mainland kinetically. > The oil was already flowing. So I think we can reasonably rule that out as an objective. Sometimes you have a thing and you don’t appreciate how important it is for you until you don’t have it anymore.
    - neoromantique 5mo ago
      Because having air frames constantly cycling in the air for six weeks straight is hard on both soldiers and air frames, so having a breather for maintenance and recovery is crucial. And Oil is not crucial for the US at all, it is hitting Europe and poor countries the most by far. (I'm from Europe)
  - senderista 5mo ago
    Oil prices are global. So are related goods like fertilizer.
- esseph 5mo ago
  > I’m sure that is true. And yet, the oil is not flowing. The comment was alluding to impotent tactical prowess, which is... silly, to say the least. > Not because we sudenly stop “blowing targets the fuck up”, but because we cripple our economies. This whole thing is extremely stupid, yes.
dragonelite 5mo ago
The Russians have been blowing up what ever they want in Ukraine for like 4 years now. Yet Ukrainians are still holding on. Its well reported in the western press that the US and Europe haven't been able to outproduce the Russian side regarding shells, drones and missiles etc.
- esseph 5mo ago
  > Its well reported in the western press that the US and Europe haven't been able to outproduce the Russian side regarding shells, drones and missiles etc. I don't think either the US or the EU have even tried to ramp up production that much. Only one of the countries listed here are in somewhat of a "wartime economy".