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I cannot agree with this after reading transcripts of Trump's speeches. It does make sense in some scenarios, but writing like one speaks only works for people

I cannot agree with this after reading transcripts of Trump's speeches. It does make sense in some scenarios, but writing like one speaks only works for people who speak clearly and effectively; unfortunately most people are terrible communicators.

jmalicki 5mo ago
What do you mean? He has a rabid fan base who loves him because he writes like he talks! It clearly works for him - I hate how he talks, but he seems to be an effective communicator if you only judge by results. Sadly.
- denkmoon 5mo ago
  Maybe more an effective rhetorician than communicator. I suppose his communication does match the clarity of thought though... it's just that the thoughts are so jumbled he says 3 things that contradict each other in the same breath.
  - oa335 5mo ago
    > more an effective rhetorician than communicator. What’s the difference?
    - Barrin92 5mo ago
      the point of rhetoric is persuasion or flattery, the point of communication (or argument as its usually framed going all the way back to Plato) is to accurately convey an idea or concept. In your average Trump speech the point is usually to evoke an emotion in his audience, not so much arguing anything in particular.
- markhahn 5mo ago
  "write like you talk" is advice for type-1 thinkers. presumably also advice from them.
- watwut 5mo ago
  > I hate how he talks, but he seems to be an effective communicator if you only judge by results Looking at Iran situation, absolutely not, results of Trumps communications are pure disaster. Looking at tariffs situation, absolutely not, results of Trumps communications are pure disaster. His communication is masterpiece of ineffective communication. On the plus side, he is emotionally pleasing to certain kind of people and he is effective in bullying and humiliating close ones. If those are the goal, yes he is effective. But, he cant do much else.

jmalicki 5mo ago

What do you mean? He has a rabid fan base who loves him because he writes like he talks! It clearly works for him - I hate how he talks, but he seems to be an effective communicator if you only judge by results. Sadly.

denkmoon 5mo ago
Maybe more an effective rhetorician than communicator. I suppose his communication does match the clarity of thought though... it's just that the thoughts are so jumbled he says 3 things that contradict each other in the same breath.
- oa335 5mo ago
  > more an effective rhetorician than communicator. What’s the difference?
  - Barrin92 5mo ago
    the point of rhetoric is persuasion or flattery, the point of communication (or argument as its usually framed going all the way back to Plato) is to accurately convey an idea or concept. In your average Trump speech the point is usually to evoke an emotion in his audience, not so much arguing anything in particular.
markhahn 5mo ago
"write like you talk" is advice for type-1 thinkers. presumably also advice from them.
watwut 5mo ago
> I hate how he talks, but he seems to be an effective communicator if you only judge by results Looking at Iran situation, absolutely not, results of Trumps communications are pure disaster. Looking at tariffs situation, absolutely not, results of Trumps communications are pure disaster. His communication is masterpiece of ineffective communication. On the plus side, he is emotionally pleasing to certain kind of people and he is effective in bullying and humiliating close ones. If those are the goal, yes he is effective. But, he cant do much else.