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For reference: This would almost triple their govts funds each year. One must also not forget that they're able to raise tolls in the future, both for monetary
by selfmodruntime 5mo ago
For reference: This would almost triple their govts funds each year. One must also not forget that they're able to raise tolls in the future, both for monetary investment but also for negotiation purposes.
- api 5mo agoSo we spent a ton of money and a bunch of people died to negotiate a much worse situation. 5D chess!
- dmix 5mo agoMaking outrageous demands is normal in these negotiations. You can just look at what Hamas demanded during the ceasefires. What usually happens is no strong concessions from either side and hostilities just end. The regimes get to survive just in a badly degraded state. Most importantly Iran can't afford to keep the strait closed to enforce this. If they block shipping their own will be blocked as well - which hasn't yet happened, they were still allowed to ship oil. Iran was already in terrible financial shape before the war and they aren't negotiating from a strong position of power to take those risks.
- cassepipe 5mo agoIs that an argument for them not being to enforce the ayatollbooth or its price to remain reasonnable ?
- ndiddy 5mo ago> Most importantly Iran can't afford to keep the strait closed to enforce this. If they block shipping their own will be blocked as well - which hasn't yet happened, they were still allowed to ship oil. Why do you say this? During the war they set up a checkpoint system so their ships and ships they allowed to pass could still pass through.
- School-Cotton 5mo agoOf course Iran wouldn't block its own ships at its own checkpoints, but the US is capable of easily interdicting Iranian shipping if it wants to.
- baq 5mo agothis would be a worse crisis than we've just had; it'd put China (if not all of Asia) directly against the USA and would put Australia in a very peculiar spot.
- ivell 5mo agoWhile the crisis would be worse, I am not that sure that China will confront US on this militarily. So far they have stayed out of other's fights.
- dmix 5mo agoIran charging a massive toll would also cause a crisis with the gulf states and they aren't going to tolerate it. This is much bigger than Iran vs US, and the idea they hold the cards for such a claim is mostly propaganda.
- peebee67 5mo agoJust pointing out that for the volume of these ships, it's not really a massive toll. It's honestly a bargain, paid for in a really easy to stomach way by the people who allowed this to happen: Everyone else.
- dmix 5mo agoDoesn't explain why UAE, Qatar, Kuwait, Bahrian, and Saudis would tolerate a fee transiting the strait. Let alone why America would agree to that in negotiations given they have little incentive to agree to any large demands. If that is agreed upon it's going to come with some concessions by Iran which is even less likely.
- School-Cotton 5mo agoNot quite, since they plan to share the revenue with Oman, or at least that’s what they’re currently claiming.
- cnd78A 5mo agogood for them, hopfeully they will be able to better protect themseves from rogue nations that don't respect international laws.
- selfmodruntime 5mo agoWe‘re still talking about the largest funding nation of terror cells mate
- tracker1 5mo agoWho enforces "international laws" anyway?