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It’s interesting to read the discussion here through the lens of obligations vs rights. It would seem the rights are definitely winning.
by jhrmnn 6mo ago
It’s interesting to read the discussion here through the lens of obligations vs rights. It would seem the rights are definitely winning.
- EA-3167 6mo agoUnsurprisingly when people here engage in serious politics beyond a desire to enrich themselves, those politics tend to take on a distinctly libertarian bent. I’m not sure what else people expect though, this is a very sheltered group with relatively limited skills outside of specific technical areas. To put it another way this forum skews selfish.
- believme1123e4 6mo ago[flagged]
- wat10000 6mo agoI miss the days when hackerdom reliably skewed selfish instead of fascist.
- surgical_fire 6mo agoThose ideas tend to go hand in hand.
- wat10000 6mo agoSo I am slowly learning!
- EA-3167 6mo agoI miss the days when such people lacked the power to turn their half-baked fantasies into a broken reality for the rest of us. Alas.
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- surgical_fire 6mo agoAre you surprised that a forum full of people all-in hustle culture and the whole VC-startup grift is extremely selfish? This is not to say that the government should get blind faith, but some notions that the collective good has any value is alien to many people here. Libertarianism is a societal disease. "Fuck you got mine".
- logicchains 6mo ago"Fuck you got mine" is the attitude of the boomers expecting young people to die for a country that the boomers left economically and demographically ruined. Young Germans have the worst life prospects of any generation in the past fifty years.
- Ylpertnodi 6mo agoYou're discussing boomers in the context of an awful lot of history.
- randomNumber7 6mo agoBut if you look at serious polls then not many young people will actually fight for this. I remember reading a number of around 15%... And those probably don't have a high IQ.
- samus 6mo agoThat's a generation of people who had to never suffer the prospect of invasion and occupation of German soil by hostile armed forces. Even so, this number of willing recruits would already be much more than the Bundeswehr can possibly arm, and are unneeded as long as there is no military altercation actively involving Germany.
- lmf4lol 6mo agoover and over again, we see that governments are pretty bad at doing their job. over and over again, they prove to us that they cant handle money, that they are corrupt, that they put the interest of their political class above that of the people. so are you surprised? id rather be left alone as much as possible in my pursuit of happiness. On my own terms!
- ankaz 6mo ago[dead]
- nicbou 6mo agoAt the moment, the German state is reneging on its obligations. The current workforce is expected to work harder and harder while retirement is pushed back and social benefits are threatened. A third or a fifth of the population is considering emigration already. Why would they fight for a country that is giving up on them?