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There's a fairly non-invasive way to do age verification: ID cards that connect to a smartphone app that only provide a boolean age verification to the requesti
by sveme 6mo ago
There's a fairly non-invasive way to do age verification: ID cards that connect to a smartphone app that only provide a boolean age verification to the requesting service. Requesting service can be anonymous to the ID app and the requesting service can only receive a bool.
That most implementation will try to collect far more data is the real concern.
- gzread 6mo agoThere's an even easier one: When you buy a phone, the salesman checks your ID and sets the phone to child lock mode or unlocked mode.
- matheusmoreira 6mo agoPhones should have no locks unless the user installs them and holds the keys.
- School-Cotton 6mo agoWhy?
- matheusmoreira 6mo agoBecause if we don't have the keys to the machine, then we don't actually own our computers. If we don't own our computers, then we have no freedom. Because everything the word "hacker" ever stood for will be destroyed if this nonsense gets normalized. The day governments get to decide what software "your" computer can run is the day it's all over.
- School-Cotton 6mo ago> Because if we don't have the keys to the machine, then we don't actually own our computers. It is not self-evident to me that people under 18 should "own [their] computers" or have unrestricted "freedom".
- fc417fc802 6mo agoThink about how the proposed idea would most likely be implemented. It would be used as justification for manufacturers to sell devices that the end use doesn't control. They already do that; this would give them legal justification.
- yason 6mo agoIn the modern world, this is like saying people under 18 shouldn't have the freedom to be able to read and write. We would be decades back into digital stone age if we had held onto such a preposterous idea in the 80's and 90's. Virtually everything we have now is basically built by people who were hacking on their computers in elementary school and exercising their freedom of speech in terms of writing code freely at the discretion of their own imagination.
- matheusmoreira 6mo agoThen their parents should own it. Not the corporations, and certainly not the government.
- gzread 6mo agoThe salesman would give you the key if you're over 18
- eipi10_hn 6mo agoParents can hold the keys for underaged?
- matheusmoreira 6mo agoThat arrangement is OK. It exactly mirrors things like car keys. The problem is giving the keys to the corporations or the government.
- Saline9515 6mo agoThe goal isn't child protection but surveillance and profits for kyc companies.
- maxhille 6mo agoMy German ID can do that already AFAIK.