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> one of the most important pieces of data for a flight, its duration Flighty is all about getting you to the airport in time for your flight, so the most impo

by exidy 6mo ago

> one of the most important pieces of data for a flight, its duration Flighty is all about getting you to the airport in time for your flight, so the most important pieces of information are things like departure times, connection times, delay information, terminal and boarding gate. These are prioritised in the interface. The flight duration is set when you book the flight and it's not going to change, there is no reason to prioritise this. > It also doesn’t surface boarding time I think this would be useful but difficult data to get. Airlines sometimes will push boarding announcements to their own apps but I doubt they would agree to feed Flighty.

ZeWaka 6mo ago
Boarding is hard because it's at the discretion of the airlines, yeah. Departure time is easier because of https://www.fly.faa.gov/edct/showEDCT https://www.fly.faa.gov/edct/showEDCT
- exidy 6mo ago
  > Departure time is easier because of https://www.fly.faa.gov/edct/showEDCT https://www.fly.faa.gov/edct/showEDCT If you're in the US!
  - ZeWaka 6mo ago
    True. I think you'd have to scrape it from sites that expose it or pay for an API for a country like the UK.
- chrony3705 6mo ago
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yosito 6mo ago
In my extensive travel experience, more than half the time the boarding time listed at the gate isn't even correct.
ymolodtsov 6mo ago
Boarding times are basically not reliable at all. Any time I come 10m after the official boarding time on the ticket there's still a standing line.
- ggsp 6mo ago
  My guess is that's because boarding a plane is a little bit like being an extra for a film, it's a hurry up and wait situation. If they printed the exact time boarding starts and people showed up then (and later), no flight would ever board on time. Better for the airline to print an earlier time and have people wait longer, so they can board as quickly as possible. Every minute behind schedule costs the airline money.
  - ymolodtsov 6mo ago
    Yes, and the actual time is probably too close to the official take off time. But this is why Flighty probably doesn't show it, it's irrelevant.
  - drdec 6mo ago
    AA displays the boarding time in the app instead of the departure time once the flight gets close enough (like same day) >If they printed the exact time boarding starts and people showed up then (and later), no flight would ever board on time I don't understand the logic. If everyone is there at the stated boarding time and the airline has correctly allocated enough time for boarding, aren't they winning?
    - donalhunt 6mo ago
      200 people can't board at the same second. Reality is you want orderly boarding over the course of ~ 10-15mins depending on passenger makeup. Crew also need to account for passenger with additional needs, catering recharge, etc
    - ggsp 6mo ago
      The point is "everyone is there at the stated boarding time" never actually happens IRL, so you give an earlier time.

by exidy 6mo ago

ZeWaka 6mo ago

Boarding is hard because it's at the discretion of the airlines, yeah. Departure time is easier because of https://www.fly.faa.gov/edct/showEDCT https://www.fly.faa.gov/edct/showEDCT

exidy 6mo ago
> Departure time is easier because of https://www.fly.faa.gov/edct/showEDCT https://www.fly.faa.gov/edct/showEDCT If you're in the US!
- ZeWaka 6mo ago
  True. I think you'd have to scrape it from sites that expose it or pay for an API for a country like the UK.
chrony3705 6mo ago
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yosito 6mo ago

In my extensive travel experience, more than half the time the boarding time listed at the gate isn't even correct.

ymolodtsov 6mo ago

Boarding times are basically not reliable at all. Any time I come 10m after the official boarding time on the ticket there's still a standing line.

ggsp 6mo ago
My guess is that's because boarding a plane is a little bit like being an extra for a film, it's a hurry up and wait situation. If they printed the exact time boarding starts and people showed up then (and later), no flight would ever board on time. Better for the airline to print an earlier time and have people wait longer, so they can board as quickly as possible. Every minute behind schedule costs the airline money.
- ymolodtsov 6mo ago
  Yes, and the actual time is probably too close to the official take off time. But this is why Flighty probably doesn't show it, it's irrelevant.
- drdec 6mo ago
  AA displays the boarding time in the app instead of the departure time once the flight gets close enough (like same day) >If they printed the exact time boarding starts and people showed up then (and later), no flight would ever board on time I don't understand the logic. If everyone is there at the stated boarding time and the airline has correctly allocated enough time for boarding, aren't they winning?
  - donalhunt 6mo ago
    200 people can't board at the same second. Reality is you want orderly boarding over the course of ~ 10-15mins depending on passenger makeup. Crew also need to account for passenger with additional needs, catering recharge, etc
  - ggsp 6mo ago
    The point is "everyone is there at the stated boarding time" never actually happens IRL, so you give an earlier time.