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Was the file in a .gitignore by any chance? I've got my home folder in git to keep track of dot/config files and that always catches me out. Really dislike it d

Was the file in a .gitignore by any chance? I've got my home folder in git to keep track of dot/config files and that always catches me out. Really dislike it defaulting to that ignoring files that are ignored by git.

worksonmine 6mo ago
> Really dislike it defaulting to that ignoring files that are ignored by git. It's the reason I started using it. Got sick of grep returning results from node_modules etc.
- dataflow 6mo ago
  You started using it because it had that capability I imagine, not because it is the default. You could easily just alias a command with the right flag if the capability was opt-in.
  - worksonmine 6mo ago
    No, because it was default. > You could easily just alias a command with the right flag if the capability was opt-in. I tried a search to make grep ignore .gitignore because `--exclude=...` got tedious and there was ripgrep to answer my prayers. Maintaining an alias would be more work than just `rg 'regex' .venv` (which is tab-completed after `.v`) the few times I'm looking for something in there. I like to keep my aliases clean and not have to use rg-all to turn off the setting I turned on. Like in your case, `alias rg='rg -u'`, now how do you turn it off?
    - unop 6mo ago
      `\rg foo` or `command rg foo`
    - dataflow 6mo ago
      > I tried a search to make grep ignore .gitignore because `--exclude=...` got tedious and there was ripgrep to answer my prayers. To be clear, I was not suggesting an alias for grep, but for a hypothetical alternate ripgrep that searches everything by default but has a flag to skip ignored files. Something like alias rgi='rg --skip-ignored' or whatever. Or if it came with a short flag that could work too, so you could use it without an alias easily. > Like in your case, `alias rg='rg -u'`, now how do you turn it off? You don't use the same name, you make a new alias. Like rgi or something. Bonus point is you find out immediately if it's missing.
      - worksonmine 6mo ago
        I use very short aliases with fallbacks to standard tools if ripgrep/fd/bat/... isn't installed. For my use searching files in `.gitignore` is useless 9/10 times, why would I want that to be default? > Or if it came with a short flag that could work too It does, `-.` for hidden and `-u` for hidden + ignored.
        dataflow 6mo ago
        > It does, `-.` for hidden and `-u` for hidden + ignored I'm not sure you understood what I wrote? Those are opt-out. The entire discussion is about opt-in.
        worksonmine 6mo ago
        > Those are opt-out. The entire discussion is about opt-in. Depends on your perspective, to me you have them flipped, and enabling them is "opt-in", i.e: "now I would like to see the hidden files please". But I don't think I misunderstood you. You're telling me I should prefer hidden files to be the default, and I disagree and give my arguments. It's not more complicated than that. To me rg only follows the same principle as the rest of my tools, fd requires `-H/--hidden`, ls `-a` or `-A` and so on. It is a big reason to why I prefer rg and fd over grep and find. Which brings us back to your first comment: >> You started using it because it had that capability I imagine, not because it is the default.
hrmtst93837 6mo ago
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worksonmine 6mo ago

> Really dislike it defaulting to that ignoring files that are ignored by git. It's the reason I started using it. Got sick of grep returning results from node_modules etc.

dataflow 6mo ago
You started using it because it had that capability I imagine, not because it is the default. You could easily just alias a command with the right flag if the capability was opt-in.
- worksonmine 6mo ago
  No, because it was default. > You could easily just alias a command with the right flag if the capability was opt-in. I tried a search to make grep ignore .gitignore because `--exclude=...` got tedious and there was ripgrep to answer my prayers. Maintaining an alias would be more work than just `rg 'regex' .venv` (which is tab-completed after `.v`) the few times I'm looking for something in there. I like to keep my aliases clean and not have to use rg-all to turn off the setting I turned on. Like in your case, `alias rg='rg -u'`, now how do you turn it off?
  - unop 6mo ago
    `\rg foo` or `command rg foo`
  - dataflow 6mo ago
    > I tried a search to make grep ignore .gitignore because `--exclude=...` got tedious and there was ripgrep to answer my prayers. To be clear, I was not suggesting an alias for grep, but for a hypothetical alternate ripgrep that searches everything by default but has a flag to skip ignored files. Something like alias rgi='rg --skip-ignored' or whatever. Or if it came with a short flag that could work too, so you could use it without an alias easily. > Like in your case, `alias rg='rg -u'`, now how do you turn it off? You don't use the same name, you make a new alias. Like rgi or something. Bonus point is you find out immediately if it's missing.
    - worksonmine 6mo ago
      I use very short aliases with fallbacks to standard tools if ripgrep/fd/bat/... isn't installed. For my use searching files in `.gitignore` is useless 9/10 times, why would I want that to be default? > Or if it came with a short flag that could work too It does, `-.` for hidden and `-u` for hidden + ignored.
      - dataflow 6mo ago
        > It does, `-.` for hidden and `-u` for hidden + ignored I'm not sure you understood what I wrote? Those are opt-out. The entire discussion is about opt-in.
        worksonmine 6mo ago
        > Those are opt-out. The entire discussion is about opt-in. Depends on your perspective, to me you have them flipped, and enabling them is "opt-in", i.e: "now I would like to see the hidden files please". But I don't think I misunderstood you. You're telling me I should prefer hidden files to be the default, and I disagree and give my arguments. It's not more complicated than that. To me rg only follows the same principle as the rest of my tools, fd requires `-H/--hidden`, ls `-a` or `-A` and so on. It is a big reason to why I prefer rg and fd over grep and find. Which brings us back to your first comment: >> You started using it because it had that capability I imagine, not because it is the default.

hrmtst93837 6mo ago

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