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archive.today has a documented history of altering the archived content, as such they immediately lose the veil of protection of a service of "public good" in m

by Permik 6mo ago

archive.today has a documented history of altering the archived content, as such they immediately lose the veil of protection of a service of "public good" in my books. Just my 2 ¢, not that it really matters anymore in this current information-warfare climate and polarization. :/

baal80spam 6mo ago
> archive.today has a documented history of altering the archived content Wow, I had no idea. Thanks.
- JasonADrury 6mo ago
  Archive.org has an even worse history of this, FWIW. It allows website owners and third parties to tamper with archived content. Look here, for example: https://web.archive.org/web/20140701040026/http://echo.msk.ru/ https://web.archive.org/web/20140701040026/http://echo.msk.r... Archive.today is by far the best option available.
  - echoangle 6mo ago
    What does this example show? It shows „ad blocker detected“ for me.
    - _osud 6mo ago
      Archived page from 2014 gets tampered with by this javascript from 2022: https://web.archive.org/web/20220912152218/http://echobanners.net/js/a9bbbb26ff2f63df59c384f56058e926.js?r=3911779835 https://web.archive.org/web/20220912152218/http://echobanner... Unless you're very technical, web.archive.org is completely untrustworthy
  - pschastain 6mo ago
    Deflection rather than addressing the actual accusation Pay attention to this type of behavior, folks. It's revealing
    - _osud 6mo ago
      What do you want me to address? I'm just pointing out that there are no great archival services, and the only real alternative to archive.today is worse. >Pay attention to this type of behavior, folks. It's revealing What does it reveal?
      - AlexeyBelov 6mo ago
        Lmao, did you just start bickering with yourself? Or, wow, you just revealed your second account.
        mafuy 6mo ago
        Yea, reading through the page, these two accounts have been sounding exactly the same. I suppose it is in line with the childish behavior of AT.
        _osud 6mo ago
        [flagged]
        AlexeyBelov 6mo ago
        Reported you to mods via email.
        _osud 6mo ago
        Oh great, I might have to click "New Identity" in Tor Browser.

by Permik 6mo ago

baal80spam 6mo ago

> archive.today has a documented history of altering the archived content Wow, I had no idea. Thanks.

JasonADrury 6mo ago
Archive.org has an even worse history of this, FWIW. It allows website owners and third parties to tamper with archived content. Look here, for example: https://web.archive.org/web/20140701040026/http://echo.msk.ru/ https://web.archive.org/web/20140701040026/http://echo.msk.r... Archive.today is by far the best option available.
- echoangle 6mo ago
  What does this example show? It shows „ad blocker detected“ for me.
  - _osud 6mo ago
    Archived page from 2014 gets tampered with by this javascript from 2022: https://web.archive.org/web/20220912152218/http://echobanners.net/js/a9bbbb26ff2f63df59c384f56058e926.js?r=3911779835 https://web.archive.org/web/20220912152218/http://echobanner... Unless you're very technical, web.archive.org is completely untrustworthy
- pschastain 6mo ago
  Deflection rather than addressing the actual accusation Pay attention to this type of behavior, folks. It's revealing
  - _osud 6mo ago
    What do you want me to address? I'm just pointing out that there are no great archival services, and the only real alternative to archive.today is worse. >Pay attention to this type of behavior, folks. It's revealing What does it reveal?
    - AlexeyBelov 6mo ago
      Lmao, did you just start bickering with yourself? Or, wow, you just revealed your second account.
      - mafuy 6mo ago
        Yea, reading through the page, these two accounts have been sounding exactly the same. I suppose it is in line with the childish behavior of AT.
        _osud 6mo ago
        [flagged]
        AlexeyBelov 6mo ago
        Reported you to mods via email.
        _osud 6mo ago
        Oh great, I might have to click "New Identity" in Tor Browser.