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Hmm might be great for some. I’m a Unix philosophy guy, one tool for one job. So far atuin was fine to be a better search history. Now it might be time to look

Hmm might be great for some. I’m a Unix philosophy guy, one tool for one job. So far atuin was fine to be a better search history. Now it might be time to look for simpler alternative. Any suggestions? (I’m on zsh)

justech 6mo ago
I tried atuin and then switched back to fzf[0]. It's less features but that's not necessarily a negative. [0]https://github.com/junegunn/fzf https://github.com/junegunn/fzf
- kstrauser 6mo ago
  Fzf doesn't let you sync your shell history, though. I self-host an Atuin server so that I can share that history across my various machines.
  - doubled112 6mo ago
    I also self host my own atuin server. It’s great. I didn’t think syncing terminal history would be very useful until I tried it, but now I have a hard time when I don’t have it.
    - kstrauser 6mo ago
      That was my experience. “Huh, what was that complicate thing I did on the database server?” I have its search bound to ^r and use Fish shell’s own search for most things, with cross-machine search a keystroke away.
  - stevekemp 6mo ago
    To be honest I find the things I do on my "work" laptop are different to the things I do on my "personal" laptop, and different again to what I do on my desktop machine. Regardless of which machine I'm using at any given moment I appreciate having "endless history", and the ability to search/filter it. But despite that I don't think I need to actual sync that. I'm sure there is value to be had from syncing and making all history unified, but it's never appealed to me particularly.
  - justech 6mo ago
    Yeah, that's part of the "less features" I mentioned. I don't get any value from syncing shell history, but I can see why it's useful for some.
- dc_giant 6mo ago
  Yup already using fzf for other things will probably just go back for search history too.
- prashantv 6mo ago
  I personally prefer the fzf UX, but I liked atuin's better tracking of history and sync abilities so I combined them: https://github.com/prashantv/atuin-fzf https://github.com/prashantv/atuin-fzf
grosswait 6mo ago
AI appears to be opt in
anamexis 6mo ago
I have to ask -- why? Atuin has not gotten any worse at its core history search functionality. All of the new features are entirely opt-in. Why switch?
- dc_giant 6mo ago
  Because to me it feels like it gets more complex in ways I don’t like. It’s a matter of preference. To be honest had I not read about it I might have never noticed it but now I know and will probably go back to fzf.
dcre 6mo ago
What here takes them over the complexity threshold?
hakcermani 6mo ago
not zsh .. plugging my bash script [1] (and gnome task bar UI) - to start a gnome terminal with a different named history file. [1]: https://github.com/appsmatics/gtsh-hist https://github.com/appsmatics/gtsh-hist
quinncom 6mo ago
You can try McFly [1] and Television [2]. I still prefer fzf. [1] https://github.com/cantino/mcfly https://github.com/cantino/mcfly [2] https://github.com/alexpasmantier/television https://github.com/alexpasmantier/television

justech 6mo ago

I tried atuin and then switched back to fzf[0]. It's less features but that's not necessarily a negative. [0]https://github.com/junegunn/fzf https://github.com/junegunn/fzf

kstrauser 6mo ago
Fzf doesn't let you sync your shell history, though. I self-host an Atuin server so that I can share that history across my various machines.
- doubled112 6mo ago
  I also self host my own atuin server. It’s great. I didn’t think syncing terminal history would be very useful until I tried it, but now I have a hard time when I don’t have it.
  - kstrauser 6mo ago
    That was my experience. “Huh, what was that complicate thing I did on the database server?” I have its search bound to ^r and use Fish shell’s own search for most things, with cross-machine search a keystroke away.
- stevekemp 6mo ago
  To be honest I find the things I do on my "work" laptop are different to the things I do on my "personal" laptop, and different again to what I do on my desktop machine. Regardless of which machine I'm using at any given moment I appreciate having "endless history", and the ability to search/filter it. But despite that I don't think I need to actual sync that. I'm sure there is value to be had from syncing and making all history unified, but it's never appealed to me particularly.
- justech 6mo ago
  Yeah, that's part of the "less features" I mentioned. I don't get any value from syncing shell history, but I can see why it's useful for some.
dc_giant 6mo ago
Yup already using fzf for other things will probably just go back for search history too.
prashantv 6mo ago
I personally prefer the fzf UX, but I liked atuin's better tracking of history and sync abilities so I combined them: https://github.com/prashantv/atuin-fzf https://github.com/prashantv/atuin-fzf

grosswait 6mo ago

AI appears to be opt in

anamexis 6mo ago

I have to ask -- why? Atuin has not gotten any worse at its core history search functionality. All of the new features are entirely opt-in. Why switch?

dc_giant 6mo ago
Because to me it feels like it gets more complex in ways I don’t like. It’s a matter of preference. To be honest had I not read about it I might have never noticed it but now I know and will probably go back to fzf.

dcre 6mo ago

What here takes them over the complexity threshold?

hakcermani 6mo ago

not zsh .. plugging my bash script [1] (and gnome task bar UI) - to start a gnome terminal with a different named history file. [1]: https://github.com/appsmatics/gtsh-hist https://github.com/appsmatics/gtsh-hist

quinncom 6mo ago

You can try McFly [1] and Television [2]. I still prefer fzf. [1] https://github.com/cantino/mcfly https://github.com/cantino/mcfly [2] https://github.com/alexpasmantier/television https://github.com/alexpasmantier/television