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Thoughts on OpenAI acquiring Astral and uv/ruff/ty
- curiousgal 6mo agoNot to gatekeep things but if you think uv solved python dependency issues then you probably never had those issues in the first place and pip would have been enough for your use case. Conda on the other hand, with external binary dependencies, now we're talking.
- simonw 6mo agoThe key issue uv solved wasn't dependencies, it was environments. I used to have hundreds of venv folders scattered around my machine. These days I use "uv run" or "uvx" or "uv run --with boto3 python" and uv handles all of the bookkeeping for me.
- bmitc 6mo agoPoetry had already solved that.
- saaspirant 6mo agoIt was very slow compared to uv
- simonw 6mo agoWhat's the poetry equivalent of this? uv run --with boto3 python
- bmitc 6mo agoThe claim was: > The key issue uv solved wasn't dependencies, it was environments. and not specific, niche features. I don't know of such a command in Poetry, but it could still be solved with dev groups or running Python in the virtual environment and installing the package.
- simonw 6mo agoThat command is an environment command. It runs Python in a temporary environment with boto3 installed - I use that trick all the time.
- necubi 6mo agoI’m someone who is not a python developer but has to use python tools and run other people’s python code. I have suffered through learning about anaconda, virtualenv, pip, and more. Uv is the first time there’s a tool that just runs the software without requiring me to become a python ecosystem expert
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- freehorse 6mo agoWell it is much faster so you can keep iterating installing dependencies until you fix the issue in much less time
- roflcopter69 6mo ago+1 for Conda. I also have to mention pixi (https://github.com/prefix-dev/pixi https://github.com/prefix-dev/pixi) which kinda is a uv for the Conda ecosystem. Highly recommend!
- ChrisArchitect 6mo agoDiscussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47438723 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47438723
- gjvc 6mo ago[flagged]
- vivzkestrel 6mo agowhat is stopping the poetry guys to rewrite poetry from the ground up as part of a breaking new release?
- fud101 6mo agothey have bad taste obviously otherwise we'd all be using their project
- androiddrew 6mo agoYes, when the poetry people purposely added a feature to fail CI with a 1/10 chance because they wanted to depreciate a feature, I depreciated poetry.
- redrove 6mo agoWhat happened to Poetry? did it just not gain enough traction? I was under the impression it was the hot new thing a few years back then uv comes out of nowhere.
- sseagull 6mo agoI thought the same thing. Just a few years ago, everyone here was proclaiming Poetry was great, the python ecosystem was finally tamed, pip/conda/setuptools was dead, and every project and developer needs to adopt it. Now it’s just a has-been. The churn in python is incredible.
- steve_adams_86 6mo agoIt's almost like you're talking about JavaScript. I use Python here and there but wasn't aware of this kind of thrash
- ardeaver 6mo agoThe news of this acquisition has made me too scared to admit that I actually have no issues Poetry.
- pugchat 6mo ago[flagged]