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I've not much to say on the thermal printer part of this but the extensions they did to markdown are great. They had me double taking for a few seconds thinking

by Spunkie 6mo ago

I've not much to say on the thermal printer part of this but the extensions they did to markdown are great. They had me double taking for a few seconds thinking they might be real markdown because they make so much sense. [align=center] Center-align the following text (also left, right) [qr=https://...] Generate and print a QR code Deprecating align in html was a mistake.

xp84 6mo ago
It’s funny, after all the work that was done to decouple content from presentation, 90% of the markup I’ve seen in every codebase this decade is using Styled Components anyway, which commingles them in the source code anyway.
- bigbuppo 6mo ago
  Oh man... the popularity of the tailwind css framework. I have big-o Opinions on that, but screw it, if it helps people get things done quickly, then I'm all for it. The semantic xml/html dweebs set us back a solid decade.
  - RadiozRadioz 6mo ago
    Indeed, I can't think of anybody who prefers <button> to <div><div><div><div class="button xl red-border top-pad-2x rounded-corner-in-bottom-left-but-not-other-corners" onclick="javascript:...">
- zigzag312 6mo ago
  I think this further proves that the hypothesis of decoupling content from presentation is flawed. The question is how many more data points do we need before we admit that?
  - adolph 6mo ago
    Yes, iirc the concept wasn't to decouple content and presentation but to decouple semantics from presentation in order to re-present content in different media in that medium's native representation of a particular semantic. However, many things are not much different in different media, a headline is a headline. And other things like "emphasis" can have cultural differences even within the same media, like being bold, italicized or even double-quotes.
    - xp84 6mo ago
      I suppose to a limited extent, that being “articles” in the typical sense, the strategy might be said to have some modicum of success. I’m sure many CMSs store articles as mostly “plain” HTML and regurgitate the same, directly into a part of the final HTML document, with actual normal CSS rules styling that.
sheept 6mo ago
Since align is only deprecated and not removed, and Markdown is a superset of HTML (at least for CommonMark and GFM), it would be valid markdown to just use <div align=center> to center text (not like there's such a thing as invalid Markdown)

by Spunkie 6mo ago

xp84 6mo ago

It’s funny, after all the work that was done to decouple content from presentation, 90% of the markup I’ve seen in every codebase this decade is using Styled Components anyway, which commingles them in the source code anyway.

bigbuppo 6mo ago
Oh man... the popularity of the tailwind css framework. I have big-o Opinions on that, but screw it, if it helps people get things done quickly, then I'm all for it. The semantic xml/html dweebs set us back a solid decade.
- RadiozRadioz 6mo ago
  Indeed, I can't think of anybody who prefers <button> to <div><div><div><div class="button xl red-border top-pad-2x rounded-corner-in-bottom-left-but-not-other-corners" onclick="javascript:...">
zigzag312 6mo ago
I think this further proves that the hypothesis of decoupling content from presentation is flawed. The question is how many more data points do we need before we admit that?
- adolph 6mo ago
  Yes, iirc the concept wasn't to decouple content and presentation but to decouple semantics from presentation in order to re-present content in different media in that medium's native representation of a particular semantic. However, many things are not much different in different media, a headline is a headline. And other things like "emphasis" can have cultural differences even within the same media, like being bold, italicized or even double-quotes.
  - xp84 6mo ago
    I suppose to a limited extent, that being “articles” in the typical sense, the strategy might be said to have some modicum of success. I’m sure many CMSs store articles as mostly “plain” HTML and regurgitate the same, directly into a part of the final HTML document, with actual normal CSS rules styling that.

sheept 6mo ago

Since align is only deprecated and not removed, and Markdown is a superset of HTML (at least for CommonMark and GFM), it would be valid markdown to just use <div align=center> to center text (not like there's such a thing as invalid Markdown)