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Bubble Sorted Amen Break
- ttyyzz 6mo ago429 Too Many Requests
- zachromorp 6mo agoIs that IDM ?
- eieio 6mo ago(the amen break is one of the most commonly-sampled drum breaks in popular music: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amen_break https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amen_break)
- zonkerdonker 6mo agoAnd a tragic story at that: >Coleman died homeless and destitute in 2006. It was unlikely he was aware of the impact he had made on music. Neither he [band leader Spencer] nor Coleman received royalties for the break.
- hnlmorg 6mo agoI’ve heard conflicting accounts about their knowledge and royalties. While I’m certain they didn’t receive royalties from all artists, I heard many 80s artists did. And Amen Brothers took others to court. So they would have know about the use of the break. I will admit I haven’t done any independent research into this matter personally. Just echoing accounts I’ve read and taking their reports at face value.
- corndoge 6mo ago> And Amen Brothers took others to court. Who is "Amen Brothers"?
- input_sh 6mo ago"Amen, Brother" is the name of the track it's from, so the parent is likely referring to the band.
- corndoge 6mo agoYeah, the band is The Winstons. I'm curious how parent knew that they went to court when they don't know the name of the band.
- hnlmorg 6mo ago> I'm curious how parent knew that they went to court I didn’t say I knew they went to court. I just said I thought I read about it. Looking into it again now, all I can find is a 10+ year old article about a crowd fund (eg https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-34785551 https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-34785551). So I’m likely misremembering what I read previously. > when they don't know the name of the band. I just got the name of the band muddled with the name of the song. I also sometimes get get the names of my friends and loved ones muddled. But that doesn’t mean I don’t know them either. I’m just shit with names. I do however remember every useless number I learned as a child. Including phone numbers to kids TV shows. Human memory is weird :-/
- epcoa 6mo agoIt’s pronounced “Allman Brothers”
- skvmb 6mo agoIt's pronounced "Doobie Brothers"
- tialaramex 6mo agoA reminder that your society will be judged not on how the most fortunate lived but how the least fortunate lived. Context still matters but there's a meaningful difference between "Anne Brontë died of Consumption (Tuberculosis), at that time there was no cure" and "Dave died of TB, he couldn't afford the cure at current market prices".
- verisimi 6mo agoSure. Which is your society though?
- tialaramex 6mo agoUnless you are one of the rare unintegrated humans†, in which case you wouldn't read HN because you don't have any of the necessary technology, there is only a single human society. Given that, we should be uncomfortable about how we're doing on that "least fortunate" thing... † https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uncontacted_peoples https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uncontacted_peoples
- verisimi 6mo agoSo why is it not our society? Are you an unintegrated human, hence why you have the external view on things?
- wartywhoa23 6mo agoNo need to nitpick. Being one among many in an X, one can perfectly use "our X", "my X" and "your X" to denote the same X, there is no logical error in that. Now, the connotation is different: saying "our X will be judged by.." spreads the responsibility among everyone and makes it too easy to shift the blame onto the next guy, while saying "your X will be judged by.." stresses on your personal contribution to the X, making it not that easy to shy away.
- verisimi 6mo ago
- legitster 6mo ago"Samples" were kind of like musical memes in the 1980s. What made for a good sample had a lot more to do with convenience and luck. The sounds that were picked for drum samples had more to do with how useful they were - the dynamic range, how isolated the drums are, how easy they were to mix. The other famous drum sample - the "Funky Drummer" as drummed by Clyde Stubblefield for James Brown, Stubblefield didn't think the particular drum pattern he used was particularly noteworthy. In that case, James Brown's production choices were actually more key - his signature sound revolved around really crisp drums that he insisted needed to be clear on AM Radio and Jukeboxes. Which is what made it so useful for sampling.
- WhiteOwlLion 6mo agoSamplers became accessible at the time which allowed music production with just loops. Look at snap I got the power. All looped samples
- input_sh 6mo agoI mean, look at any house or hip-hop track, sampling's like the most fundamental part of both genres. The track you've mentioned is the prime example of the blend of those two genres. Before the term Eurodance caught on, this track would be referred to as hip-house (as in hip-hop + house). Chicago and the broader NY area did it first, but it was a Belgian track that first topped the US charts (Technotronic's Pump Up The Jam).
- redwall_hp 6mo agoThat's why one of the super simple improvements I'd make to music copyright law, if I had to choose one thing rather than a massive overhaul, is for sampling to also be subject to the compulsory mechanical royalty system. So any artist could sample something, do some paperwork, and send of a fraction of royalties. Rather than the current system where you need explicit permission from the recording artist and have no recourse if they say no. So many music genres exist because of sampling, and the shit legal precedents set in recent decades ruined an amazing thing.
- ompogUe 6mo agoReminds me of Motown's James Jamerson [1] [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Jamerson https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Jamerson
- araker 6mo agoThat's true, though there was a community fundraising a while back. Many well known dnb and jungle dj's donated there. https://ra.co/news/28370 https://ra.co/news/28370
- tlynchpin 6mo agohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5SaFTm2bcac https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5SaFTm2bcac great deep dive into the Amen break. this video is from the yt days of yore, nice to see the yt algo still propping it up.
- exDM69 6mo agoThat's a fun two minutes for any computer scientist drum and bass fan.
- staplung 6mo agoCool, but I don't see how it's sorting anything. It just seems to play a randomized arrangement of the slices. You can re-randomize as much as you like but there's no sort option as far as I can see.
- throwuxiytayq 6mo agoGive it a minute or two.
- dylan604 6mo agoDid you play it to the end? It's absolutely sorting from smallest to largest. Unless you have a confused understanding of a bubble sort, it's doing a bubble sort
- hnlmorg 6mo agoNot the OP but I stopped listening pretty quickly because I was confused about how it was sorted. It wasn’t until I read your comment that I realised the sorting happened while you were listening rather than before hand.
- ricardobeat 6mo agoSame! thanks for saving the experience for me :)
- lxgr 6mo agoSo it's sorting from earliest to latest, really?
- dylan604 6mo agoThe value that is being sorted isn't obvious to me. It's obvious that it is sorting it. I'm guessing maybe some dB level of each of the hits/notes. If that was the case, I'd expect the initial unsorted view to line up with the pattern of the waveforms which is not the case. Maybe it's just an unsorted list of values sorted in sync to the rhythm. It's weird though that the segment corresponds to a segment of the audio. I just don't see how they are linked.
- sandwell 6mo agoIt sounds like a Ventian Snares track. Love it.
- danwills 6mo agoI just put on a Venetian Snares album (Rossz Csillag Alatt Született) and thought I'd come back here to say the same as you have! I'd also add: It's like Aaron's whole career is slightly resting atop Amen Break, at least as far back as (first I heard and still my favorite) The Chocolate Wheelchair Album! Amazing detailed work with Amen and similar samples that's for sure!
- marssaxman 6mo agoI can't help laughing. This is great. I don't understand the comparison function, but it's really enjoyable listening to the algorithm work out its logic.
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- cocodill 6mo agoIt's comparing the t value.
- marssaxman 6mo agoThat is so much simpler than any of the possibilities I had imagined!
- braebo 6mo agoNo sound on iPhone. Shame Apple is so hostile to the web. Tragic really.
- quag 6mo agoiOS seems to mute the web audio apis when the phone is in silent mode (the switch on the side of the phone). If you toggle it on, then this site (and many others) play sound. I have no idea why it works this way and it’s frequently annoying.
- bigstrat2003 6mo agoWhy wouldn't it work that way? Whether it's a hardware toggle like on iPhone or a software one like in Android, I want silent to mean silent. Not "silent but if a web page decides to play sound it can".
- tialaramex 6mo agoThere is some amount of the "Focus follows brain" problem here. What we want is for things to do what we meant, all the time, and in this case it's very possible that the visitor wanted to hear the music. It is not practical (without yet to invented technology) for that to work so we have a substitute - there's a switch and you should remember to press it. "Focus follows brain" is how everybody wants windowed UIs to work. When I type on the keyboard the letters go where my brain thought they should go - duh, but of course that's unimplementable, so the Windows UI provides "Click to focus" - if I click on a Window the typing goes there until I click another window, meanwhile some Unix systems do "Focus follows Mouse" - if I move the mouse over a Window then my typing goes there even without clicking. Neither is what we actually wanted, both are trying to approximate.
- dylan604 6mo agoMany many times I have music playing in the background from another app while browsing. So no, there’s no way to focus follow brain. There’s just no way for this device to know what I want unless I tell it
- onionisafruit 6mo agoI would have expected it to be terrible to listen to, but it was pretty nice.
- moosehater 6mo agoYup, this is essentially what the original concept of the Jungle genre was built around. Chop up the Amen Break, mix the notes(?) around, repeat them as you see fit, and add other samples/vocals around the drum patterns you've created. A couple favorites from the 90s: https://youtu.be/mL2Bgj-za5k?si=fhXHhNGjA-RZkiD7 https://youtu.be/mL2Bgj-za5k?si=fhXHhNGjA-RZkiD7 https://youtu.be/a5meT63flnM?si=ggvypNCFfUUq3Qxq https://youtu.be/a5meT63flnM?si=ggvypNCFfUUq3Qxq
- robin_reala 6mo agoMy personal prize for the most chopped amen goes to Breakage’s Final mix of Equinox’s Acid Rain VIP. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LoKlz6_I4vY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LoKlz6_I4vY
- bouk 6mo agoWow I've heard pieces of this but never the full thing, incredible
- jamal-kumar 6mo agohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rI5Qlo2Y6Jg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rI5Qlo2Y6Jg Nice pick! Above that same song but not compressed to hell I like this one for amen stuff. Heavyweight Vol.4 - Untitled 7 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dfyHx7SCn3g https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dfyHx7SCn3g
- ChrisArchitect 6mo agoWorlds colliding here. We're dropping amen selections now? Some classics that sound like what the app is sortin': Remarc - Sound Murderer (Loafin' in Brockley Mix) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3SUdpCVITxc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3SUdpCVITxc Splash - Babylon https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7vghx8SEeH8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7vghx8SEeH8 DJ Krome & Mr. Time - The License https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yPa5JBg8hZI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yPa5JBg8hZI Source Direct - Secret Liason https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xfEWCVoB45s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xfEWCVoB45s Danny Breaks - Droppin' Science Vol 1A https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xqZT-Jse5rQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xqZT-Jse5rQ
- HelloUsername 6mo ago> We're dropping amen selections now? Futurama theme! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tz8HmN2uvuk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tz8HmN2uvuk
- Underphil 6mo agoKrome & Time - Studio One https://youtu.be/SdelbMo_YZM https://youtu.be/SdelbMo_YZM Absolutely love this.
- oybng 6mo agoAutomatic chopping has existed for decades, popularised here: https://web.archive.org/web/20051225061044/http://www.cus.cam.ac.uk/~nc272/papers/pdfs/bbcutlib.pdf https://web.archive.org/web/20051225061044/http://www.cus.ca... https://github.com/mdsp/Livecut https://github.com/mdsp/Livecut See also, dblue Glitch, chrisGlitch, Renoise
- bzzzt 6mo agoYes, and on many samplers too. The linked website looks like a 'lite' version of the slicer on my Elektron Octatrack ;)
- evereverever 6mo agoThis is bonkers and I love it.
- uoaei 6mo agoI need WebGL to play audio on HTML pages now?
- probabletrain 6mo agoit's an application built with webgl that plays audio, rather than just an audio player
- empath75 6mo agoNot playing it all the way through at the end is diabolical.
- nvader 6mo agoThis deserves the top spot on the front page! Might I ask for the implementation of other sorting algorithms here?
- jatari 6mo ago-100 points for not having a volume slider.
- idontwantthis 6mo agoCan someone explain the comparison function?
- Retr0id 6mo agoI wish it'd play through the whole thing in order at the end
- robot_jesus 6mo ago100% this. Because I'm a masochist, I let it run through 128 random slices. Took maybe 15 mins (wasn't timing or anything). Definitely deserved the payoff at the end to hear the whole thing.
- theowaway213456 6mo agoI anticipated this problem and increased the BPM to get through it in about 30s to see if it'd be worth the time haha.
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- teach 6mo agoIf you never play the original sample, you never have to worry about royalties. :rollsafe-think-about-it:
- matsz 6mo agoFunnily enough, there's a drum loop that's also frequently sampled in electronic music from a track titled "Think (About It)." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Think_(About_It) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Think_(About_It)
- zimpenfish 6mo ago> If you never play the original sample, you never have to worry about royalties. Even if you do, you don't.[0] [0] https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-34785551 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-34785551
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- ykl 6mo agoIf you aren’t familiar with the Amen Break, here’s a now classic 18 minute documentary on the Amen Break and its origins and evolution: https://youtu.be/5SaFTm2bcac?si=J99_Sh9x3fIBCSms https://youtu.be/5SaFTm2bcac?si=J99_Sh9x3fIBCSms
- ge96 6mo agoDifferent bubble sort https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m4EMG63W388 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m4EMG63W388 Or types of sorts
- Negitivefrags 6mo agoCan we get an Amen quicksort now?
- larodi 6mo agotbh i expect it to be much more interesting if doing other kind of sorts
- regus 6mo agoThis afternoon I was getting the oil changed for my car, and while I was in the waiting room the Amen Break started playing from a nearby speaker.
- suzdude 6mo agoThis is unreasonably fun.
- knodi123 6mo agolol, that's the stupidest thing that I've ever watched all the way through with a grin the whole time.
- cocodill 6mo agoAt first I didn't understand, but then I did.
- guelo 6mo agowhat is the y axis on that graph? what are we sorting?
- dag11 6mo agoThis is one of those things you see and get angry you didn't wake up the idea first. It's so perfect and just as satisfying as you'd hope. Incredible stuff!
- rullelito 6mo agoShould I understand what this is trying to show?
- efortune 6mo agoThis documentary from 2004 (uploaded to YouTube in 2006(!)) is how I learned about the Amen Break and it's immense influence on the music of the 80s and 90s: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5SaFTm2bcac https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5SaFTm2bcac
- seu 6mo agoWould love to hear it unsorting the same array.
- _nothing 6mo agoCool but I'm a bit confused - bubble sorted by what, exactly? Like what is the y-axis?
- zwarag 6mo agoY is essentially the order. If you take the recording and start slicing. The first slices are the smaller ones and the later slices are the taller ones.