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I'm surprised, isn't it forbidden to use the Max plan as part of a company? Just curious, as I thought it was forbidden by the ToS but I'm not sure if I have a

by aweb 6mo ago

I'm surprised, isn't it forbidden to use the Max plan as part of a company? Just curious, as I thought it was forbidden by the ToS but I'm not sure if I have a good understanding of it

alex_c 6mo ago
? Claude Code has a Teams plan which includes Max tiers. Why would it be forbidden?
ValentineC 6mo ago
> Just curious, as I thought it was forbidden by the ToS but I'm not sure if I have a good understanding of it Could you quote the relevant part that you think forbids it for us?
bloppe 6mo ago
If that were true, then everyone I know is violating that tos
quikoa 6mo ago
If they believe a sufficient number is locked in then they may consider doing this later.
ffsm8 6mo ago
There is nothing in the TOS last time I checked forbidding it's use with Claude code. It's only forbidden to utilize it in the running of the business. So getting Claude code subscriptions for developers should be permissable and not be against anything... However, if you created a rest endpoint to eg run a preconfigured prompt as part of your platform, that'd be against it But I'm neither a lawyer nor work for anthropic
- ValentineC 6mo ago
  > It's only forbidden to utilize it in the running of the business. Sorry, but could you clarify what this means?
  - ffsm8 6mo ago
    The following paragraph had my clarification to that... Expressed differently: are you an individual using a official anthropic application interactively? You're fine. You're using it unattendedly, without an individual holding the reigns? You should probably talk with an lawyer wherever that's permissable. Again, IANAL nor do I work for anthropic
- anonzzzies 6mo ago
  Ah, that makes sense. I hope they mean that then. We are just devs using it to write code; not selling it on.
sunaurus 6mo ago
Surely that can't be true? The expectation would be that people pay $200 a month for building open source and personal hobby software with Claude?
- anonzzzies 6mo ago
  Yeah, that would end that really quickly. I use Pro for personal stuff. If $200 is not allowed for companies I don't think anyone would use it, at all.
KptMarchewa 6mo ago
Most companies forbid it though, since you're not covered by any legal protection - for example, Anthropic can use your data or code to train new models and more.
- bdangubic 6mo ago
  This maybe was the case year+ ago but this is no longer the case, used to be most; now it is some/few
  - itintheory 6mo ago
    Any references on this? I hear this argument a lot. In fact, in a talk on AI last week I heard someone say: "If you click the thumbs up button to rate a chat, the AI provider will use the contents for training, so our company's policy is never to click the thumbs up button" That seemed so farcical I had a hard time taking this person seriously. Enterprise plans must give some strong guarantees around data usage, right?
    - bdangubic 6mo ago
      Obviously I can speak only from my personal experience but just me I have 5 examples of companies that were “no AI, IP and all that” that are now full-on “every developer must use CC, Cursor…” How many conpanes today don’t have “AI strategy” and are fearing will be left behind etc? In my small circle we went from “most are not using AI” to “none are not using AI” in somewhat short period of time
    - addandsubtract 6mo ago
      This is why most businesses only have ChatGPT subscriptions. Plus their integration into existing Microsoft products and billing.
      - bdangubic 6mo ago
        Trusting Microsoft seems like a right move /s

by aweb 6mo ago

I'm surprised, isn't it forbidden to use the Max plan as part of a company? Just curious, as I thought it was forbidden by the ToS but I'm not sure if I have a good understanding of it

alex_c 6mo ago

? Claude Code has a Teams plan which includes Max tiers. Why would it be forbidden?

ValentineC 6mo ago

> Just curious, as I thought it was forbidden by the ToS but I'm not sure if I have a good understanding of it Could you quote the relevant part that you think forbids it for us?

bloppe 6mo ago

If that were true, then everyone I know is violating that tos

quikoa 6mo ago

If they believe a sufficient number is locked in then they may consider doing this later.

ffsm8 6mo ago

There is nothing in the TOS last time I checked forbidding it's use with Claude code. It's only forbidden to utilize it in the running of the business. So getting Claude code subscriptions for developers should be permissable and not be against anything... However, if you created a rest endpoint to eg run a preconfigured prompt as part of your platform, that'd be against it But I'm neither a lawyer nor work for anthropic

ValentineC 6mo ago
> It's only forbidden to utilize it in the running of the business. Sorry, but could you clarify what this means?
- ffsm8 6mo ago
  The following paragraph had my clarification to that... Expressed differently: are you an individual using a official anthropic application interactively? You're fine. You're using it unattendedly, without an individual holding the reigns? You should probably talk with an lawyer wherever that's permissable. Again, IANAL nor do I work for anthropic
anonzzzies 6mo ago
Ah, that makes sense. I hope they mean that then. We are just devs using it to write code; not selling it on.

sunaurus 6mo ago

Surely that can't be true? The expectation would be that people pay $200 a month for building open source and personal hobby software with Claude?

anonzzzies 6mo ago
Yeah, that would end that really quickly. I use Pro for personal stuff. If $200 is not allowed for companies I don't think anyone would use it, at all.

KptMarchewa 6mo ago

Most companies forbid it though, since you're not covered by any legal protection - for example, Anthropic can use your data or code to train new models and more.

bdangubic 6mo ago
This maybe was the case year+ ago but this is no longer the case, used to be most; now it is some/few
- itintheory 6mo ago
  Any references on this? I hear this argument a lot. In fact, in a talk on AI last week I heard someone say: "If you click the thumbs up button to rate a chat, the AI provider will use the contents for training, so our company's policy is never to click the thumbs up button" That seemed so farcical I had a hard time taking this person seriously. Enterprise plans must give some strong guarantees around data usage, right?
  - bdangubic 6mo ago
    Obviously I can speak only from my personal experience but just me I have 5 examples of companies that were “no AI, IP and all that” that are now full-on “every developer must use CC, Cursor…” How many conpanes today don’t have “AI strategy” and are fearing will be left behind etc? In my small circle we went from “most are not using AI” to “none are not using AI” in somewhat short period of time
  - addandsubtract 6mo ago
    This is why most businesses only have ChatGPT subscriptions. Plus their integration into existing Microsoft products and billing.
    - bdangubic 6mo ago
      Trusting Microsoft seems like a right move /s