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Off topic. Did anybody read the linked fortune article about Uber ceo expecting people to work on weekends. It has that paid PR post and satirical piece vibes

by devsda 6mo ago

Off topic. Did anybody read the linked fortune article about Uber ceo expecting people to work on weekends. It has that paid PR post and satirical piece vibes at the same time. With words like "unparalleled work ethic" working on weekends, wisdom and the part about checking emails right after waking up at 5 in the morning, I was expecting it to wrap up with a hint of obvious sarcasm but sadly it never came.

polotics 6mo ago
This isn't off topic in as much as clearly it reveals how disconnected from reality that CEO is: "Khosrowshahi says: Just work hard, and success will follow. " ...is hilarious for a company like Uber, where the whole point of the business model is to optimize away drivers income so much that they will always be on the edge of something very much else than success, no matter how hard they work!
- wojciii 6mo ago
  Uber is a failure here in this part of Scandinavia. They were made redundant by our lowmakers and try to run some kind of cab business in accordance with our laws.
  - OutOfHere 6mo ago
    What ridesharing services thrive there? None as far as I know. The taxis in Scandinavia are in my experience a total scam with drivers charging absurdly high rates and taking the long route on top of it. The riders are worse off in every way.
    - wojciii 6mo ago
      Taxis are not a scam. They are expensive because they have to pay people to drive for a living. You should ask to drive a specific route and know the area. This is the same in all countries.
      - OutOfHere 6mo ago
        Please. I shouldn't have to ask the taxi driver to use the fastest route. They are supposed to do that on their own. Instead, they intentionally use a slower route, and sometimes even intentionally miss turns. All this is true in Europe. Moreover, at least in the US, sometimes their behavior can be downright rude, hateful, and hostile. You seem altogether blind to what you're missing. Uber/Lyft rates are substantially lower than of taxis, and they never intentionally take a long route, as the rate is almost always pre-decided. Their drivers too earn for a living. Whenever competition is artificially suppressed, you're getting scammed as a default.
        wojciii 6mo ago
        You seem to be missing the point that countries have laws that prohibit companies like Uber as they won't pay workers a proper wage comparable with other industries. I don't want Uber here or any of the gig economy parasites.
        OutOfHere 6mo ago
        No one is forcing anyone to keep working for Uber. Those who do so work and leave freely. Clearly you hate freedom.
        wojciii 6mo ago
        No, I just dislike corporate bullshit version of freedom. And I fucking hate parasites. All the gig economy companies are the same. Come to Scandinavia and see for yourself. We have got temperate weather, no earthquakes and no gun violence.
kleiba 6mo ago
To be honest, if they paid me a 6 digit salary, I'd be happy to "answer an email" on a Saturday, it isn't exactly doing an 8+ hour shift at the weekend.
- Tactical45 6mo ago
  More like 7-8 digit salary, in the case of the CEO's direct reports at Uber
- _fw 6mo ago
  It’s not that a single email isn’t worth the bargain (it is). It’s that this is symptomatic of an unhealthy, performative culture. This kind of behaviour incentivises a kind of pick-me, I’m suffering the most for the shareholders type of behaviour. How many Saturday emails really make a difference? The whole thing is a ruse. And the fact this shithead is spouting his nonsense on Steven Bartlett’s asinine podcast surprises me not.
- triceratops 6mo ago
  You're selling yourself too cheaply. To habitually work on weekends I'd need at least a 7 figure salary. Maybe even 8 figures.
  - tavavex 6mo ago
    Sometimes to me it feels like HN posts come from a different universe to mine. $10 million to answer emails on weekends seems insane. I would gladly do it for 2x the minimum wage where I live. The situation on the market is really, really desperate, especially on the lower end.
    - triceratops 6mo ago
      It isn't literally "answer 1 email on a Saturday occasionally" though. I've done that for a lot less. The expectation is to work 7 days/week and/or be available to work anytime. I appreciate that this is the reality for many jobs with lower pay - especially retail and fast food. Software and software-adjacent jobs are not like that though. Professionals in this field have, for the past quarter century, had better opportunities. I understand it's a unique job market right now and people do what they must.

by devsda 6mo ago

polotics 6mo ago

This isn't off topic in as much as clearly it reveals how disconnected from reality that CEO is: "Khosrowshahi says: Just work hard, and success will follow. " ...is hilarious for a company like Uber, where the whole point of the business model is to optimize away drivers income so much that they will always be on the edge of something very much else than success, no matter how hard they work!

wojciii 6mo ago
Uber is a failure here in this part of Scandinavia. They were made redundant by our lowmakers and try to run some kind of cab business in accordance with our laws.
- OutOfHere 6mo ago
  What ridesharing services thrive there? None as far as I know. The taxis in Scandinavia are in my experience a total scam with drivers charging absurdly high rates and taking the long route on top of it. The riders are worse off in every way.
  - wojciii 6mo ago
    Taxis are not a scam. They are expensive because they have to pay people to drive for a living. You should ask to drive a specific route and know the area. This is the same in all countries.
    - OutOfHere 6mo ago
      Please. I shouldn't have to ask the taxi driver to use the fastest route. They are supposed to do that on their own. Instead, they intentionally use a slower route, and sometimes even intentionally miss turns. All this is true in Europe. Moreover, at least in the US, sometimes their behavior can be downright rude, hateful, and hostile. You seem altogether blind to what you're missing. Uber/Lyft rates are substantially lower than of taxis, and they never intentionally take a long route, as the rate is almost always pre-decided. Their drivers too earn for a living. Whenever competition is artificially suppressed, you're getting scammed as a default.
      - wojciii 6mo ago
        You seem to be missing the point that countries have laws that prohibit companies like Uber as they won't pay workers a proper wage comparable with other industries. I don't want Uber here or any of the gig economy parasites.
        OutOfHere 6mo ago
        No one is forcing anyone to keep working for Uber. Those who do so work and leave freely. Clearly you hate freedom.
        wojciii 6mo ago
        No, I just dislike corporate bullshit version of freedom. And I fucking hate parasites. All the gig economy companies are the same. Come to Scandinavia and see for yourself. We have got temperate weather, no earthquakes and no gun violence.

kleiba 6mo ago

To be honest, if they paid me a 6 digit salary, I'd be happy to "answer an email" on a Saturday, it isn't exactly doing an 8+ hour shift at the weekend.

Tactical45 6mo ago
More like 7-8 digit salary, in the case of the CEO's direct reports at Uber
_fw 6mo ago
It’s not that a single email isn’t worth the bargain (it is). It’s that this is symptomatic of an unhealthy, performative culture. This kind of behaviour incentivises a kind of pick-me, I’m suffering the most for the shareholders type of behaviour. How many Saturday emails really make a difference? The whole thing is a ruse. And the fact this shithead is spouting his nonsense on Steven Bartlett’s asinine podcast surprises me not.
triceratops 6mo ago
You're selling yourself too cheaply. To habitually work on weekends I'd need at least a 7 figure salary. Maybe even 8 figures.
- tavavex 6mo ago
  Sometimes to me it feels like HN posts come from a different universe to mine. $10 million to answer emails on weekends seems insane. I would gladly do it for 2x the minimum wage where I live. The situation on the market is really, really desperate, especially on the lower end.
  - triceratops 6mo ago
    It isn't literally "answer 1 email on a Saturday occasionally" though. I've done that for a lot less. The expectation is to work 7 days/week and/or be available to work anytime. I appreciate that this is the reality for many jobs with lower pay - especially retail and fast food. Software and software-adjacent jobs are not like that though. Professionals in this field have, for the past quarter century, had better opportunities. I understand it's a unique job market right now and people do what they must.