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I was thinking the same but then I looked at what I could get for 70000 INR on Amazon and it would be crazy to buy this over the alternatives. What is the draw

by eklavya 7mo ago

I was thinking the same but then I looked at what I could get for 70000 INR on Amazon and it would be crazy to buy this over the alternatives. What is the draw for this device given the price?

blell 7mo ago
Those laptops look very good on paper, now buy one and tell us how it goes.
- eklavya 7mo ago
  But I have been and so many around me have been buying those. They are ok.
ido 7mo ago
If you've tried some of those cheap PC laptops the build quality is no where near macbooks (even for laptops twice the price). Macs tend to live a long time and retain their resale value like crazy compared to PCs too.
- eklavya 7mo ago
  I bought a macbook pro m1 pro. Its value is 25% in 4/5 years. I bought a second hand dell latitude 7/8 years ago, it was 3/4 years old then. Still running as a server today. A cheap acer bought in 2017 runs almalinux and is surprisingly fast and capable today, I had upgraded ram and put in nvme SSD long back.
  - ido 7mo ago
    Ive owned a lot of macs and PCs over the last 15-20 years (many of them from work so i didnt "own" them but i used them daily), the % of pc laptops that have technical/hardware issues is way higher than macs in my experience. Of course YMMV with either.
  - UqWBcuFx6NV4r 7mo ago
    If you are satisfied with the build quality and general longevity of an Acer computer then you are wasting your time trying to understand a huge comparative advantage of the Neo. I’d just accept that you aren’t the market and move on.
    - eklavya 7mo ago
      Yeah, I guess so. I was just wondering when people said it's great value, is it because they believe that the build quality (all metal) is the most important factor here. But then I can get an HP omnibook 5 oled for the same price with "almost" a metal body. I started thinking, ok I was going to buy an iPad maybe, why not neo? It makes so much sense since my wife could do much more with it. Then I started looking at what the market has to offer for the price and it stopped making sense. The marketing does seem great on this. I am sure it makes a lot of sense to some people who wanted a cheap macOS laptop and got it.
      - Aurornis 7mo ago
        > But then I can get an HP omnibook 5 oled for the same price with "almost" a metal body. The bargain HP laptops don’t compare at all to MacBook build quality or battery life. That laptop is also 4lbs and has below average battery life. We recently got a higher end HP laptop for someone and the build quality on it is marginal at best. If you’re only looking at spec sheets and trying to treat this like a comparison table of simple points then you’re going to miss the reason why these products appeal to buyers.
  - Aurornis 7mo ago
    > I bought a second hand dell latitude 7/8 years ago, it was 3/4 years old then. If your needs are satisfied by 4 year old second hand machines and you’re still happy with them when they’re 10-12 years old, that’s great for you. I think you’re not the target audience. Your decade old Dell Latitude is not even close to the performance or usefulness of a MacBook Neo so the fact that you’re bringing it up is a good indicator that you don’t understand who the MacBook Neo is for. The MacBook Neo is a great value for anyone who wants a high quality, long battery life, fast laptop for a bargain price.
    - eklavya 7mo ago
      I would invite you to read my comment again (take a wild guess what my main machine is from the list) and especially the comment I was replying to (like how the build quality is great for other laptops to still be running as a "server" and a capable laptop). My comment might start to make more sense than you think.
      - Aurornis 7mo ago
        We’re in a thread about the MacBook Neo, so that’s what we’re comparing to. You said you didn’t understand why anyone would buy a MacBook Neo and then went on to talk about old second-hand laptops. You’re not the target audience.
  - adithyassekhar 7mo ago
    Are you sure of that 25%? Where can i find one?
loloquwowndueo 7mo ago
Back in the day, ability to run MacOS would have been a plus, but with the trainwreck that Tahoe is said to be, I’m not so sure.
- baal80spam 7mo ago
  It might be because of me being relatively new to the Apple ecosystem (I got my first developer Mac in 2020), but to this day I have no idea what is it that it's SO bad about Tahoe.
  - jemmyw 6mo ago
    Not much IMO has changed. I set reduced transparency anyway and that removed the main issues. Some of the corners are overly rounded but that seems pretty minor. On the other hand, I'm glad people are making a lot of noise about it because it would be nice if Apple could spend a couple of OS cycles on the basics of improved UX.
- lukevp 7mo ago
  People just love to complain. Windows 11 is way worse than Tahoe anyway. If you don’t like Liquid Glass, you can disable it
  - deleted 6mo ago
    [deleted]
  - weikju 6mo ago
    You can’t disable Liquid Glass. You can tone down some of the transparency but that all.
bluedays 7mo ago
You get a Macbook.

by eklavya 7mo ago

I was thinking the same but then I looked at what I could get for 70000 INR on Amazon and it would be crazy to buy this over the alternatives. What is the draw for this device given the price?

blell 7mo ago

Those laptops look very good on paper, now buy one and tell us how it goes.

eklavya 7mo ago
But I have been and so many around me have been buying those. They are ok.

ido 7mo ago

If you've tried some of those cheap PC laptops the build quality is no where near macbooks (even for laptops twice the price). Macs tend to live a long time and retain their resale value like crazy compared to PCs too.

eklavya 7mo ago
I bought a macbook pro m1 pro. Its value is 25% in 4/5 years. I bought a second hand dell latitude 7/8 years ago, it was 3/4 years old then. Still running as a server today. A cheap acer bought in 2017 runs almalinux and is surprisingly fast and capable today, I had upgraded ram and put in nvme SSD long back.
- ido 7mo ago
  Ive owned a lot of macs and PCs over the last 15-20 years (many of them from work so i didnt "own" them but i used them daily), the % of pc laptops that have technical/hardware issues is way higher than macs in my experience. Of course YMMV with either.
- UqWBcuFx6NV4r 7mo ago
  If you are satisfied with the build quality and general longevity of an Acer computer then you are wasting your time trying to understand a huge comparative advantage of the Neo. I’d just accept that you aren’t the market and move on.
  - eklavya 7mo ago
    Yeah, I guess so. I was just wondering when people said it's great value, is it because they believe that the build quality (all metal) is the most important factor here. But then I can get an HP omnibook 5 oled for the same price with "almost" a metal body. I started thinking, ok I was going to buy an iPad maybe, why not neo? It makes so much sense since my wife could do much more with it. Then I started looking at what the market has to offer for the price and it stopped making sense. The marketing does seem great on this. I am sure it makes a lot of sense to some people who wanted a cheap macOS laptop and got it.
    - Aurornis 7mo ago
      > But then I can get an HP omnibook 5 oled for the same price with "almost" a metal body. The bargain HP laptops don’t compare at all to MacBook build quality or battery life. That laptop is also 4lbs and has below average battery life. We recently got a higher end HP laptop for someone and the build quality on it is marginal at best. If you’re only looking at spec sheets and trying to treat this like a comparison table of simple points then you’re going to miss the reason why these products appeal to buyers.
- Aurornis 7mo ago
  > I bought a second hand dell latitude 7/8 years ago, it was 3/4 years old then. If your needs are satisfied by 4 year old second hand machines and you’re still happy with them when they’re 10-12 years old, that’s great for you. I think you’re not the target audience. Your decade old Dell Latitude is not even close to the performance or usefulness of a MacBook Neo so the fact that you’re bringing it up is a good indicator that you don’t understand who the MacBook Neo is for. The MacBook Neo is a great value for anyone who wants a high quality, long battery life, fast laptop for a bargain price.
  - eklavya 7mo ago
    I would invite you to read my comment again (take a wild guess what my main machine is from the list) and especially the comment I was replying to (like how the build quality is great for other laptops to still be running as a "server" and a capable laptop). My comment might start to make more sense than you think.
    - Aurornis 7mo ago
      We’re in a thread about the MacBook Neo, so that’s what we’re comparing to. You said you didn’t understand why anyone would buy a MacBook Neo and then went on to talk about old second-hand laptops. You’re not the target audience.
- adithyassekhar 7mo ago
  Are you sure of that 25%? Where can i find one?

loloquwowndueo 7mo ago

Back in the day, ability to run MacOS would have been a plus, but with the trainwreck that Tahoe is said to be, I’m not so sure.

baal80spam 7mo ago
It might be because of me being relatively new to the Apple ecosystem (I got my first developer Mac in 2020), but to this day I have no idea what is it that it's SO bad about Tahoe.
- jemmyw 6mo ago
  Not much IMO has changed. I set reduced transparency anyway and that removed the main issues. Some of the corners are overly rounded but that seems pretty minor. On the other hand, I'm glad people are making a lot of noise about it because it would be nice if Apple could spend a couple of OS cycles on the basics of improved UX.
lukevp 7mo ago
People just love to complain. Windows 11 is way worse than Tahoe anyway. If you don’t like Liquid Glass, you can disable it
- deleted 6mo ago
  [deleted]
- weikju 6mo ago
  You can’t disable Liquid Glass. You can tone down some of the transparency but that all.

bluedays 7mo ago

You get a Macbook.