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You forgot to mention they solved vision based autonomous driving, but I guess that doesn’t matter if Elon = bad

by sixQuarks 7mo ago

zozbot234 7mo ago
SAE level 2 driver assistance is explicitly not autonomous driving.
iancmceachern 7mo ago
Huh? They did not "solve" vision based driving.
- eviks 7mo ago
  Of course, but if Elon=great you can ignore that
SpicyLemonZest 7mo ago
It's this kind of dynamic that makes me pull back on my otherwise pretty AI-forward stance. There's an entire community of people who passionately believe it's obvious and undeniable that Elon Musk has solved problems that he has not solved and his companies deliver things they don't deliver. Tesla is absolutely unambiguous in their marketing material (https://www.tesla.com/fsd https://www.tesla.com/fsd) that they do not have autonomous driving, but you're far from the first person I've encountered who's been tricked into believing otherwise. I don't think that's my relationship with AI, I'm hardly an uncritical booster. But would I know if it was?
- a_victorp 7mo ago
  You definitely would not know if you were, no one does. I think the healthy position is to assume you are wrong and trying to find evidence of why you are wrong For instance,I'm very skeptical of AI and, from experience, do not think that the current models are worth the cost, but I'm always in HN trying to find arguments/people that use AI successfully to prove that I'm wrong
  - soulofmischief 7mo ago
    I know multiple developers paying thousands of months on AI tooling. I don't need to convince you it's worth it for you, but it's easy to see that other people have found a way to make it worth it for themselves. I would definitely not spend as much as I personally do if it wasn't worth it to me.
albedoa 7mo ago
Hope daddy sees this and gives you that lollipop.
outside1234 7mo ago
Seems not solved: https://fortune.com/2026/02/26/tesla-robotaxis-4x-8x-worse-than-humans-at-driving-safety-record-crashes/ https://fortune.com/2026/02/26/tesla-robotaxis-4x-8x-worse-t...
soulofmischief 7mo ago
Gonna need a citation for that, buck.

You forgot to mention they solved vision based autonomous driving, but I guess that doesn’t matter if Elon = bad

zozbot234 7mo ago

SAE level 2 driver assistance is explicitly not autonomous driving.

iancmceachern 7mo ago

Huh? They did not "solve" vision based driving.

eviks 7mo ago
Of course, but if Elon=great you can ignore that

SpicyLemonZest 7mo ago

It's this kind of dynamic that makes me pull back on my otherwise pretty AI-forward stance. There's an entire community of people who passionately believe it's obvious and undeniable that Elon Musk has solved problems that he has not solved and his companies deliver things they don't deliver. Tesla is absolutely unambiguous in their marketing material (https://www.tesla.com/fsd https://www.tesla.com/fsd) that they do not have autonomous driving, but you're far from the first person I've encountered who's been tricked into believing otherwise. I don't think that's my relationship with AI, I'm hardly an uncritical booster. But would I know if it was?

a_victorp 7mo ago
You definitely would not know if you were, no one does. I think the healthy position is to assume you are wrong and trying to find evidence of why you are wrong For instance,I'm very skeptical of AI and, from experience, do not think that the current models are worth the cost, but I'm always in HN trying to find arguments/people that use AI successfully to prove that I'm wrong
- soulofmischief 7mo ago
  I know multiple developers paying thousands of months on AI tooling. I don't need to convince you it's worth it for you, but it's easy to see that other people have found a way to make it worth it for themselves. I would definitely not spend as much as I personally do if it wasn't worth it to me.

albedoa 7mo ago

Hope daddy sees this and gives you that lollipop.

outside1234 7mo ago

Seems not solved: https://fortune.com/2026/02/26/tesla-robotaxis-4x-8x-worse-than-humans-at-driving-safety-record-crashes/ https://fortune.com/2026/02/26/tesla-robotaxis-4x-8x-worse-t...

soulofmischief 7mo ago

Gonna need a citation for that, buck.