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Can hatred of Musk not derail this entire thread please? I have a camera-only ADAS that I think works quite well, but having both would be better.

Zigurd 7mo ago
Shoe, meet foot.
- RockRobotRock 7mo ago
  I don't know what that means
  - BugsJustFindMe 7mo ago
    https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/if_the_shoe_fits,_wear_it https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/if_the_shoe_fits,_wear_it
    - RockRobotRock 7mo ago
      Oh, that's silly. I don't own a Tesla. I just wanna talk about LIDAR without people ragebaiting about Elon.
      - BugsJustFindMe 7mo ago
        > without people ragebaiting about Elon Hmm. Is it ragebaiting to respond to a tired and wrong statement by saying that it's tired and wrong and that the situation is merely the product of piss poor management decisions? People get understandably frustrated seeing the same wrong talking point that people with domain knowledge in computer vision and robotics have repeatedly explained is wrong in extremely fundamental ways. > I don't own a Tesla. n.b. The shoe/foot comment was not about you. It was about Musk. It wouldn't make any idiomatic sense for the expression to be about you given what you said and what you were responding to. If they'd said "pot, meet kettle", then it would have been about you. In that context, saying that you don't own a Tesla feels like a weird thing for you to insert in your comment. It potentially comes across as suspiciously defensive.
        RockRobotRock 7mo ago
        suspiciously defensive??? you got me. Or maybe I just didn't understand their comment.
        BugsJustFindMe 7mo ago
        I'm just trying to help you out here, friend.
nutjob2 7mo ago
Criticism of Musk isn't hate of Musk. The point is completely valid and the results of this management style infuses all of his businesses albeit with differing results. It's significant that a truly hard problem like autonomous driving doesn't respond to a "brute force" management style. Rockets aren't in this category because the required knowledge and theory is fairly complete, whereas real autonomous driving is completely novel.

Zigurd 7mo ago

Shoe, meet foot.

RockRobotRock 7mo ago
I don't know what that means
- BugsJustFindMe 7mo ago
  https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/if_the_shoe_fits,_wear_it https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/if_the_shoe_fits,_wear_it
  - RockRobotRock 7mo ago
    Oh, that's silly. I don't own a Tesla. I just wanna talk about LIDAR without people ragebaiting about Elon.
    - BugsJustFindMe 7mo ago
      > without people ragebaiting about Elon Hmm. Is it ragebaiting to respond to a tired and wrong statement by saying that it's tired and wrong and that the situation is merely the product of piss poor management decisions? People get understandably frustrated seeing the same wrong talking point that people with domain knowledge in computer vision and robotics have repeatedly explained is wrong in extremely fundamental ways. > I don't own a Tesla. n.b. The shoe/foot comment was not about you. It was about Musk. It wouldn't make any idiomatic sense for the expression to be about you given what you said and what you were responding to. If they'd said "pot, meet kettle", then it would have been about you. In that context, saying that you don't own a Tesla feels like a weird thing for you to insert in your comment. It potentially comes across as suspiciously defensive.
      - RockRobotRock 7mo ago
        suspiciously defensive??? you got me. Or maybe I just didn't understand their comment.
        BugsJustFindMe 7mo ago
        I'm just trying to help you out here, friend.

nutjob2 7mo ago

Criticism of Musk isn't hate of Musk. The point is completely valid and the results of this management style infuses all of his businesses albeit with differing results. It's significant that a truly hard problem like autonomous driving doesn't respond to a "brute force" management style. Rockets aren't in this category because the required knowledge and theory is fairly complete, whereas real autonomous driving is completely novel.