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If you don't see the difference between metaamphetamines and their deriatives vs methylphenidate, then you don't have any right to comment on the subject. And n
by JayDustheadz 7mo ago
If you don't see the difference between metaamphetamines and their deriatives vs methylphenidate, then you don't have any right to comment on the subject.
And no, it's not a "drug". Calling it such is guilt-tripping those that want to/do use MPH it and there's already a ton of that in the lives of people with ADHD.
A parent hearing somebody call MPH a "drug" = "There's no way in hell I'm giving my kid DRUGS!!11". For kids with ADHD (and for people with ADHD in general), medication is massive a life changer ( and saver too ) - from often nightmare to livable/decent.
You don't have any right to take that away from them.
- mindslight 7mo agoIf parents (or anyone else) is unable to overcome their cognitive dissonance from drugs being called drugs, they really have no business making decisions about their use.
- JayDustheadz 7mo agoYou clearly have no idea how people with ADHD / parents of ADHD kids feel like. Just because you can "overcome your cognitive dissonance" doesn't mean that everybody has the same freedom/will/strength to do so. Adding the weight of the "drugs" tag is not a way to help those who need medication to barely function like a normal person.
- mindslight 7mo agoI don't have cognitive dissonance to overcome here as I'm not reflexively recoiling at the term "drugs". If someone is unable to acknowledge that drugs are drugs, how are they supposed to analyze the intended effects, possible side effects, the actual effects, etc? Or are we just supposed to blindly trust the overworked bureaucrat in the white coat? And sure, I understand if someone needs to just trust a bureaucrat to bootstrap themselves to the point where they can make decisions. But your original comment was talking about parents making these decisions for kids, which is quite dodgy if they're in denial that these are mind altering substances.
- solumunus 7mo agoSomething can be mind altering without producing a recreational high for the user. Isn’t it strange that people don’t chime in on threads about anti depressants with “don’t you know you’re taking drugs?!?!”…
- verall 7mo agoSome people do though. Then the "Your coffee/food/electronics/exercise/(etc but increasingly tenuous) are a drug" people start to jump in...
- mindslight 7mo ago"Recreational high" has nothing to do with it. Medicare part D is literally referred to as "prescription drug plan". If people have the same denial about anti-depressants, then my critique applies as well. But an allowance for the need to bootstrap would seem to apply more, plus the generally more complex mechanisms and nuanced effects making it harder to understand the effects for yourself.
- solumunus 7mo agoYou're completely missing the point, probably intentionally. Context exists. Everyone knows medicine in general is drugs, there are also recreational drugs/narcotics. It's usually very obvious which of these someone is referring to. They are separate categories of things with separate implications. You know this of course.
- mindslight 7mo agoThe comment I initially responded to was reacting to the usage of the word "drug". And yes while there is a distinction in categories with some distinct implications, there is also a lot of commonality between them. And the reaction I was responding to indicated a strong desire to reject those commonalities.
- thenaturalist 7mo ago
- deaux 7mo agoWhere do you buy your paracetamol? Surely at the drugstore.
- thenaturalist 7mo ago[flagged]