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Article title is a bit dramatic. The summary seems to be: for the 5% of users who back-up to a network share (rather than direct-attached storage like a USB har

Article title is a bit dramatic. The summary seems to be: for the 5% of users who back-up to a network share (rather than direct-attached storage like a USB hard drive enclosure), Apple's default SMB configs on Tahoe are strict and won't work out of the box with many common NAS solutions. Apple should document such changes, but, looking at the post title, you'd think they were silently corrupting data during restoration.

hughw 8mo ago
Is that 5% number real or your estimate?
- tonyedgecombe 8mo ago
  Yeah, it sounds a bit high to me.
  - fragmede 8mo ago
    People with laptops that don't want to be attached to a dongle for storage when there's the Internet sounds like < 5% to you?
    - tonyedgecombe 8mo ago
      The original post was about people who backup to a local server, not over the internet.
- roadbuster 8mo ago
  It's a hand-waved estimate, but let's recognize that Apple actively plans on killing support for NAS targets for Time Machine: > Time Machine backup to NAS devices over Apple Filing Protocol (AFP) is not recommended and won't be supported in a future version of macOS. https://support.apple.com/en-us/102423 https://support.apple.com/en-us/102423
  - hughw 8mo ago
    But that's AFP, not SMB. SMB is the future. [edit, that sounds sad].
    - deleted 8mo ago
      [deleted]
  - BugsJustFindMe 8mo ago
    AFP is what's deprecated, not Time Machine over networks. They just want you to use SMB.
    - roadbuster 8mo ago
      Acknowledged. Thanks for pointing that out.
PunchyHamster 8mo ago
> Article title is a bit dramatic. The summary seems to be: for the 5% of users who back-up to a network share (rather than direct-attached storage like a USB hard drive enclosure), Apple's default SMB configs on Tahoe are strict and won't work out of the box with many common NAS solutions. I'd argue that's not even the main problem. If it just broke and gave you error on each run ("this SMB share is incompatible") it wouldn't be an issue

hughw 8mo ago

Is that 5% number real or your estimate?

tonyedgecombe 8mo ago
Yeah, it sounds a bit high to me.
- fragmede 8mo ago
  People with laptops that don't want to be attached to a dongle for storage when there's the Internet sounds like < 5% to you?
  - tonyedgecombe 8mo ago
    The original post was about people who backup to a local server, not over the internet.
roadbuster 8mo ago
It's a hand-waved estimate, but let's recognize that Apple actively plans on killing support for NAS targets for Time Machine: > Time Machine backup to NAS devices over Apple Filing Protocol (AFP) is not recommended and won't be supported in a future version of macOS. https://support.apple.com/en-us/102423 https://support.apple.com/en-us/102423
- hughw 8mo ago
  But that's AFP, not SMB. SMB is the future. [edit, that sounds sad].
  - deleted 8mo ago
    [deleted]
- BugsJustFindMe 8mo ago
  AFP is what's deprecated, not Time Machine over networks. They just want you to use SMB.
  - roadbuster 8mo ago
    Acknowledged. Thanks for pointing that out.

PunchyHamster 8mo ago

> Article title is a bit dramatic. The summary seems to be: for the 5% of users who back-up to a network share (rather than direct-attached storage like a USB hard drive enclosure), Apple's default SMB configs on Tahoe are strict and won't work out of the box with many common NAS solutions. I'd argue that's not even the main problem. If it just broke and gave you error on each run ("this SMB share is incompatible") it wouldn't be an issue