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There have to be GovCloud only LLMs just for this case. I swear this government is headed by appointed nephews of appointed nephews. I keep thinking back abou
by BiscuitBadger 8mo ago
There have to be GovCloud only LLMs just for this case.
I swear this government is headed by appointed nephews of appointed nephews.
I keep thinking back about that Chernobyl miniseries; head of the science department used to run a shoe factory. No one needs to be competent at their job anymore
- dmix 8mo agoThe article says > [ChatGPT] is blocked for other Department of Homeland Security staff. Gottumukkala “was granted permission to use ChatGPT with DHS controls in place,” adding that the use was “short-term and limited.” He had a special exemption to use it as head of Cyber and still got flagged by cybersecurity checks. So obviously they don't think it's safe to use broadly. They already have a deal with OpenAI to build a government focused one https://openai.com/global-affairs/introducing-chatgpt-gov/ https://openai.com/global-affairs/introducing-chatgpt-gov/
- grayhatter 8mo ago> So obviously they don't think it's safe to use broadly. More likely, everything gets added to the list because there shouldn't be false positives, it's worth investigating to make sure there isn't an adjacent gap in the security systems.
- kulahan 8mo agoYou are uploading information to the chat system every time you use it. Doubly true if you’re having it analyze or work with documents. I presume pulling this data out is simple if you’re, say, China. There really no security to investigate. Without a private instance, it’s an absolute non-starter for anything classified.
- patrickmcnamara 8mo ago> presume pulling this data out is simple if you’re, say, China Why would you presume that?
- nostrademons 8mo agoSomehow I think that the weak link in our government security is at the top - the President, his cabinet, and various heads of agencies. Because nobody questions what they're allowed to do, and so they're exempt from various common-sense security protocols. We already saw some pretty egregious security breaches from Pete Hegseth.
- NoGravitas 8mo agoThat's also the case in businesses. No one denies the CEO a security exemption.
- AnimalMuppet 8mo agoBeen there. The CEO of an internet security company was the one who clicked on the wrong email attachment and turned a virus loose. I mean, I don't know if he had a security exemption, or if anyone who clicked on it would have infected us. But he was the weak link, at least in that instance.
- lysace 8mo agoI have never worked in a company where an obviously incorrect CEO-demanded security exemption (like this one) would have been allowed to pass. Professionalism, boards (with a mandatory employee member/representative, after some size) and ethics exist. 30 years in about 8 software companies, Northern Europe. Often startups. Between 4 to 600 people. When they grow large the work often turns boring, so it's time to find something smaller again.
- NoGravitas 8mo agoAh, Northern Europe is probably the difference. This passes all the time in the US. It's probably more common in non-tech companies, as well.
- LastTrain 8mo agoI’m in the US, SE since 1998, startups to multinationals. What the GP said holds true for me too. There are serious professionals in the world - I don’t know why some people want to drag every one else down to the level of the current US administration- they are exceptionally inept.
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- stronglikedan 8mo ago> There have to be GovCloud only LLMs just for this case. I hear Los Alamos labs has an LLM that makes ChatGPT look like a toy. And then there's Sentinel, which may be the same thing I'm not sure.
- heliumtera 8mo agoAnd we all heard they reverse engineered alien anti gravity technology in the 80s.
- wafflemaker 8mo agoAll I've heard was that they were aware it's anti gravity. Nothing about reverse engineering. Care to say more about that?
- heliumtera 8mo agoBob Lazar claims he was allocated in this project where not only they found working device capable of emiting gravitational waves out of phase with earth gravitational waves, but they achieved the same effect bombarding a mysterious unknown at the time element. He called the material element115 (the logical guess, element 114 properties was known/was synthesized), while emiting one proton and decaying back to element 115 the effect was achieved. Apparently he was in fact allocated on a top secret project at los Alamos and his expertise was alternative propulsion back everything else is folklore, but it is deep folklore if you're interested in conspiracy theories
- gosub100 8mo agoCheck the engineering salaries between each organization and reconsider your claim.
- SoftTalker 8mo agoIs it called "Skynet?"
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- direwolf20 8mo agoThey say that most fascist governments fall apart because they actively despise competence, which it turns out you need if you are trying to run a country.
- PearlRiver 8mo agoCompetence gives way to ideology. I once read an interesting book on the economy of Nazi Germany. There were a lot of smart CEOs and high ranking civil servants who perfectly predicted US industrial might.
- bena 8mo agoThat’s because eventually reality catches up to you. If the reality of a thing is in opposition to the regime’s wishes, you can’t just wish that away. However, the regime will favor those who say “yes” over those who accept reality.
- coldtea 8mo agoThey say it, but they're wrong. Historically speaking there have been basically about 2 fascist governments, and they fell because they lost wars. And Germany, for one, did run them with high competence, to the extend that it took years for many countries to do anything about. It we loosen "fascist" to just mean any authoritarian government, there are many that run of very long time.
- thinkingtoilet 8mo agoWWII started in 1939 and was done in early 1945, so it didn't take that long. More importantly, maybe the Nazi's were competent at first, but they absolutely fell apart internally due to mistrust, back stabbing, and demanding of loyalty above all else. Hitler famously made many poor military decisions.
- coldtea 8mo agoSix years for a country holding back the allies is not "that long" - and 6 years more since they came into power? And as a government they'd still be in power 20 and 30 years later if they didn't start the war (judging from Franco's spain).
- randycupertino 8mo ago> I swear this government is headed by appointed nephews of appointed nephews. Don't forget the Large Adult Sons! https://www.newyorker.com/culture/cultural-comment/the-land-of-the-large-adult-son https://www.newyorker.com/culture/cultural-comment/the-land-... https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/large-adult-sons https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/large-adult-sons
- te_chris 8mo agoThe failsons of the king of the failsons
- timmmmmmay 8mo agothere are, he was just too lazy to use them
- TZubiri 8mo agoIsn't using azure openai enough? I read their docs and they have self hosted instances for corporate data compliance.
- ayaros 8mo agoHey, working at a shoe factory is serious business. You have to be a real bootlicker to get ahead in a place like that.
- tryauuum 8mo agoDo remember that HBO Chernobyl is fiction, there was no shoe guy publicly drinking vodka irl
- kergonath 8mo agoIt is perfectly plausible that someone from a shoe factory would end up in that guy’s position. He would just have been running the factory, not making shoes.
- nullorempty 8mo agonot in the USSR at the time of the events.
- varjag 8mo agoYes in reality that guy was a machinist.
- smaudet 8mo agoGuess what this administration would love to do with nuclear facilities... Any time you have to include "competent" in a description of a job or related technology, that's a clue that it needs requisite oversight and (possibly exponetial) proportionate cost.
- bdangubic 8mo agoDEI in action (funny people thst voted for this were apparently anti-DEI and now they get 100% DEI)
- sham1 8mo agoOf course this comment is mostly ironic, but noting for the whole class, when the MAGA talked about DEI they only ever meant ethnic and sexual minorities, competence be damned! That is of course the thing about ideologies like it: loyalty before all else.
- bdangubic 8mo agoDEI is basically “someone else got a gig not because of their abilities but because _____” The entire Trump administration, every single person, is a DEI hire.
- AnimalMuppet 8mo agoDEI at its worst is exactly what you say. (At its best, it's "we hire for abilities, but we also look for abilities in non-traditional people". But, even though that's what DEI can be, not all "someone got a git not because of ability" is DEI. Cronyism, racism, and sexism all do that, too. In the case of this administration, I think the traditional term is "yes men" - people who are hired not for ability, but because they will not say no to the boss.
- fooker 8mo agoIt's all part of the plan. Make the government look so incompetent that it is a no brainer to let a private company (headed by your friends and family of course) to do the important jobs and siphon resources much more effectively.
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- gtowey 8mo ago> No one needs to be competent at their job anymore That's actually the whole point. Placing incompetents in positions of authority means they know absolutely to whom they owe their loyalty. Because they know they would never have that job on merit. And since they don't really know how to do the job, they have no moral qualms about doing a poor job, or strong opinions on what they should be doing -- other than whatever mission their patron has given them. It's a tool used by weak leaders and it's unfortunately very effective.
- bandrami 8mo ago> I swear this government is headed by appointed nephews of appointed nephews. No joke, the previous head of the State Department task force tasked with fighting corruption and nepotism in international contracting was named Rich Nephew. (He's a very talented career civil servant and I mean no shade I just find that hilarious.)