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Neat. What can we do better?

nophunphil 8mo ago
“We” feels a little insincere when you’re speaking on behalf of such a large corporation. I’m sure the comment had more to do with weaknesses of Azure as a whole rather than your team’s piece.
- jaboutboul 8mo ago
  When I said "we" I meant the group of folks who work on and care about Linux and open source at Microsoft and in a position to help affect change that comes in via feedback from the community.
rolph 8mo ago
seriously, there is a huge issue with reputation and trust. after what has happened with consumer products, how can anybody be sure its not going to happen on the server side?
fuzzer371 8mo ago
Not be Microsoft, mostly.
- rolph 8mo ago
  you know feedback is being requested, you could put a little more quality into it, pretend they dont know what has ever been said about them before. pretend your a manager, and you have to approach an employee about thier hygiene.
  - direwolf20 8mo ago
    But it's true. Microsoft's reputation is in the toilet. After everything from the ICC sanctions to the AI spam in Windows to this month's Patch Tuesday incident, everyone knows to avoid Microsoft products like their life depends on it. But if you want an actionable idea here's one: make it a hundred times cheaper, or free. People use Oracle Cloud because it's free, even though Oracle is even worse than Microsoft. If you want people to use it, you know what to do.
flomo 8mo ago
In the last few months, this place is turning into Slashdot 2.0. So you're going to encounter people still seething about the 1990s.
deaux 8mo ago
There's quite a bit you could do better. As for the US, having the laws on the books appropriately applied, resulting in a breaking up of the company would make me much more likely to opt for Azure. For the remaining 96% of the world population that isn't the US, there's not much you can do, as the ICC case shows you to be an adversary. You'd have to show through big actions that you no longer are one. I'm sure someone wants to reply "why so aggressive, they're doing their best, they don't have anything to do with the above". Almost certainly someone who wouldn't write this if I were replying to a Flock, ClearView, Paragon [0] or Palantir employee on here, despite Microsoft realistically being a much bigger societal threat - and top enabler of the former companies - in every way imaginable. [0] https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/sep/02/trump-immigration-ice-israeli-spyware https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/sep/02/trump-immigr...
- chirau 8mo ago
  You have a core team member of the Azure Linux group invite you to ask/tell them what you want to see in what they are working on and this is what you choose to say? Smh
  - nophunphil 8mo ago
    They referred to Microsoft’s known practice of embrace, extend, extinguish a “conspiracy theory” in a sibling thread, so they’ve essentially lost credibility. I don’t think genuine feedback is going anywhere useful.
    - jaboutboul 8mo ago
      i said that tongue-in-cheek lol
- cornhole 8mo ago
  he will take your concerns directly to satya microsoft himself
Sytten 8mo ago
I would have to write a book on it, but start with allowing people to create an azure account for an organization without having to buy O365. I kid you not I had to find a sidedoor portal in a Reddit post to do it otherwise it's simply not possible. Every interaction with Azure is a pain. Just 3 weeks ago I was trying to use Artifact Signing, after spending one hour on outdated doc on how to set it up I get hit with Identity validation. I did all steps and still "in progress" still to this day. You charge 40$/month for "support" on Microsoft Q&A which we all know is a joke otherwise its 100USD just to get a ticket in to know why your process is so broken. At this point I get better support on GCP which is telling.

“We” feels a little insincere when you’re speaking on behalf of such a large corporation. I’m sure the comment had more to do with weaknesses of Azure as a whole rather than your team’s piece.

jaboutboul 8mo ago
When I said "we" I meant the group of folks who work on and care about Linux and open source at Microsoft and in a position to help affect change that comes in via feedback from the community.

rolph 8mo ago

seriously, there is a huge issue with reputation and trust. after what has happened with consumer products, how can anybody be sure its not going to happen on the server side?

fuzzer371 8mo ago

Not be Microsoft, mostly.

rolph 8mo ago
you know feedback is being requested, you could put a little more quality into it, pretend they dont know what has ever been said about them before. pretend your a manager, and you have to approach an employee about thier hygiene.
- direwolf20 8mo ago
  But it's true. Microsoft's reputation is in the toilet. After everything from the ICC sanctions to the AI spam in Windows to this month's Patch Tuesday incident, everyone knows to avoid Microsoft products like their life depends on it. But if you want an actionable idea here's one: make it a hundred times cheaper, or free. People use Oracle Cloud because it's free, even though Oracle is even worse than Microsoft. If you want people to use it, you know what to do.

flomo 8mo ago

In the last few months, this place is turning into Slashdot 2.0. So you're going to encounter people still seething about the 1990s.

deaux 8mo ago

There's quite a bit you could do better. As for the US, having the laws on the books appropriately applied, resulting in a breaking up of the company would make me much more likely to opt for Azure. For the remaining 96% of the world population that isn't the US, there's not much you can do, as the ICC case shows you to be an adversary. You'd have to show through big actions that you no longer are one. I'm sure someone wants to reply "why so aggressive, they're doing their best, they don't have anything to do with the above". Almost certainly someone who wouldn't write this if I were replying to a Flock, ClearView, Paragon [0] or Palantir employee on here, despite Microsoft realistically being a much bigger societal threat - and top enabler of the former companies - in every way imaginable. [0] https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/sep/02/trump-immigration-ice-israeli-spyware https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/sep/02/trump-immigr...

chirau 8mo ago
You have a core team member of the Azure Linux group invite you to ask/tell them what you want to see in what they are working on and this is what you choose to say? Smh
- nophunphil 8mo ago
  They referred to Microsoft’s known practice of embrace, extend, extinguish a “conspiracy theory” in a sibling thread, so they’ve essentially lost credibility. I don’t think genuine feedback is going anywhere useful.
  - jaboutboul 8mo ago
    i said that tongue-in-cheek lol
cornhole 8mo ago
he will take your concerns directly to satya microsoft himself

Sytten 8mo ago

I would have to write a book on it, but start with allowing people to create an azure account for an organization without having to buy O365. I kid you not I had to find a sidedoor portal in a Reddit post to do it otherwise it's simply not possible. Every interaction with Azure is a pain. Just 3 weeks ago I was trying to use Artifact Signing, after spending one hour on outdated doc on how to set it up I get hit with Identity validation. I did all steps and still "in progress" still to this day. You charge 40$/month for "support" on Microsoft Q&A which we all know is a joke otherwise its 100USD just to get a ticket in to know why your process is so broken. At this point I get better support on GCP which is telling.