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Fortunately someone recreated a clone at https://merrysky.net https://merrysky.net, which was featured [1] on HN some time ago. I've used it daily since. [1]

Fortunately someone recreated a clone at https://merrysky.net https://merrysky.net, which was featured [1] on HN some time ago. I've used it daily since. [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34155191 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34155191

kotaKat 8mo ago
And a toast to its source, the drop-in PirateWeather API: https://pirateweather.net/ https://pirateweather.net/
chrisweekly 8mo ago
Great rec! Thanks! See also Windy.app (a paid app w/ great dataviz, dx, and robust set of data sources).
- CraigRood 8mo ago
  Windy.app looks good visually, but once you start using it, the UX is all over the place. Always find it frustrating.
  - chrisweekly 8mo ago
    Interesting! I used it heavily for years as a sailor and found it intuitive. Clearly, YMMV. :)
- chrneu 8mo ago
  for what it's worth, most people i know prefer windy.com over windy.app Windy.app is for wind based water activities. Windy.com is a data-heavy weather information site.
  - ako 8mo ago
    As a windsurfer, wingfoiler, and kitesurfer i can only say that both Windy.app a nd Windy.com are awesome. Like the ability to compare different models easily.
the__alchemist 8mo ago
Thx bro. I stumbled into this thread thinking it was about something else, and left with a new favorite weather bookmark. Nice things: - Loads fast - Nice vis of both today and week - Can mouse over the visualizations to get precise readouts.
- Leftium 8mo ago
  You might also like https://weather-sense.leftium.com https://weather-sense.leftium.com
  - garciansmith 8mo ago
    This is neat, but I find the charts extremely hard to parse due to the color gradients and the similar shades, especially of blue and teal. I find the Merry Sky charts a lot easier to understand.
    - Leftium 8mo ago
      Perhaps I should add an option to disable gradients. There's a screen shot showing what it used to look like before gradients: https://github.com/Leftium/weather-sense https://github.com/Leftium/weather-sense
      - cess11 8mo ago
        It's not clear how to switch to sane units of measurement.
        Leftium 8mo ago
        You mean you prefer C over F? Tapping any temperature will toggle between the two. (This always comes up, so the app should probably default to units based on the user's location: the default is F only if the app detects you're in the US) - Toggling C/F also toggles the scale on the radar to km. Eventually, I will get around to adding a dedicated settings page. - However, the app was designed so one could get a sense of the weather without numeric labels: temperature is a very relative experience, so use the spatial/color cues to compare yesterday, today, and forecast days. - Notice now much more space C needs when toggling between C and F. F's 0 to 99 range fits the natural range of temperatures humans experience (weather, body temperature). Humans just don't experience anything beyond 50 degrees C. At the same time, a single delta C is too large for the precision human bodies can detect. (Humans need something closer to 0.5C precision, which is what 1 degree F is.) - As as result C needs nearly twice as much horizontal space compared to F: due to going negative more often and needing an extra decimal for minimal precision required.
tha_hnrain 8mo ago
It renders the information totally different. How can it be a clone?
Leftium 8mo ago
Inspired by MerrySky: https://weather-sense.leftium.com https://weather-sense.leftium.com Some differences: - Shows weather from yesterday for comparison - All hourly plot trackers connected; not just the top one - Includes AQI - Sky color visualization (try scrubbing across dawn/dusk!) - Non-precipitation colors approximate sky color (haziness) - Temperature variation visualized both spatially and with colors - Data source is Open Meteo - Planned: 60 minutely forecast like https://openweathermap.org https://openweathermap.org
- TuringTest 8mo ago
  There's no obvious way to change the location of the prediction. Can it be done, to support the "travelling soon" use cases?
  - Leftium 8mo ago
    Yes, but currently only possible via url param: - https://weather-sense.leftium.com/?n=nyc https://weather-sense.leftium.com/?n=nyc n is short for "name" and uses the Open Meteo geocoding API[1]. [1]: https://open-meteo.com/en/docs/geocoding-api https://open-meteo.com/en/docs/geocoding-api
guillohm 8mo ago
Thanks for the mention! I'm the author of merrysky. Opened to feedback. What would you say you miss the most?
- bmink 8mo ago
  May be too specific but as a European in the US, I would love to be able to see temperature in F and C at the same time!
- schoen 8mo ago
  Could you tell me the significance of the location in Australia that's used by default? I frequently clear browser cookies and history so it often jumps back there, so I see that location a lot, but can never envision exactly why it was the default. (Specifically, a point along Gol Gol Road in Arumpo, NSW, Australia.)
- ggm 8mo ago
  Not missed but ideas for the future * Adopt a colour scheme with similarity to the old BOM? * Some way to store longer baseline movie animations in local state so people can avoid cost in you but run the weather radar for longer? * Tide info? Hyper specific to people who do water things. Willyweather does this really well. I use Willyweather and Windy. I used to use a weather app written by some mob called "shifty jelly" and their git logs were .. hysterical. Drunk fairy penguins seemed to cause most of the bugs.
- seletskiy 8mo ago
  Dataviz suggestions from top of the page to the bottom: - Location search & display: no English version, only localized names, which is hard to reason if you don't know native language. - Summary: a) what does precip. in % mean and how it correlates with cm? b) pressure is only displayed in hPa, while some countries prefer mmHg; c) what does ozone index mean and why is it important? - Next 24 hours: visual indication for temp variation through the day would be easier to reason than just by looking at numbers (as discussed in TFA). - Next 7 days: a) unnecessary precision for y-axis (e.g. 10.9°C vs. 11°C); b) band overshoot actual values (e.g. if I see 10..−10°C, I assume that would be max/min temp, but in fact it is 8..−9°C, which is impossible to tell without hovering mouse over); c) no horiz. line through 0°C; d) no horiz. lines through y-axis ticks, which makes it harder to reason about values closer to the end of the graph; e) precip. in cm tells little, especially when band is alike (0.00..0.80 cm) - peaks on graphs look like a lot, in fact they are not? g) seeing blue precip. graph subconsciously means 'rain' to me, while in fact it would be snow; f) labels for y-axis are at the same time very small, rotated 90° and also take too much horizontal space from the graph. - Map: moving mouse over next 7 days graph causes time shown on map to change that would make sense if map's timeline would cover all 7 days, but it only covers small part of today. - Week: a) fog icons look like they have solid white square background, which seems to be off compared to other icons; b) low/high values are hard to reason about, especially when it says 'Low … at 11am' and there is no tick labeled '11am' (10am .. 12pm) - displaying a line through coldest/warmest hours with °C value next to it would be much easier to understand. Also: displaying air quality prediction based on last year's AQ would be helpful.

kotaKat 8mo ago

And a toast to its source, the drop-in PirateWeather API: https://pirateweather.net/ https://pirateweather.net/

chrisweekly 8mo ago

Great rec! Thanks! See also Windy.app (a paid app w/ great dataviz, dx, and robust set of data sources).

CraigRood 8mo ago
Windy.app looks good visually, but once you start using it, the UX is all over the place. Always find it frustrating.
- chrisweekly 8mo ago
  Interesting! I used it heavily for years as a sailor and found it intuitive. Clearly, YMMV. :)
chrneu 8mo ago
for what it's worth, most people i know prefer windy.com over windy.app Windy.app is for wind based water activities. Windy.com is a data-heavy weather information site.
- ako 8mo ago
  As a windsurfer, wingfoiler, and kitesurfer i can only say that both Windy.app a nd Windy.com are awesome. Like the ability to compare different models easily.

the__alchemist 8mo ago

Thx bro. I stumbled into this thread thinking it was about something else, and left with a new favorite weather bookmark. Nice things: - Loads fast - Nice vis of both today and week - Can mouse over the visualizations to get precise readouts.

Leftium 8mo ago
You might also like https://weather-sense.leftium.com https://weather-sense.leftium.com
- garciansmith 8mo ago
  This is neat, but I find the charts extremely hard to parse due to the color gradients and the similar shades, especially of blue and teal. I find the Merry Sky charts a lot easier to understand.
  - Leftium 8mo ago
    Perhaps I should add an option to disable gradients. There's a screen shot showing what it used to look like before gradients: https://github.com/Leftium/weather-sense https://github.com/Leftium/weather-sense
    - cess11 8mo ago
      It's not clear how to switch to sane units of measurement.
      - Leftium 8mo ago
        You mean you prefer C over F? Tapping any temperature will toggle between the two. (This always comes up, so the app should probably default to units based on the user's location: the default is F only if the app detects you're in the US) - Toggling C/F also toggles the scale on the radar to km. Eventually, I will get around to adding a dedicated settings page. - However, the app was designed so one could get a sense of the weather without numeric labels: temperature is a very relative experience, so use the spatial/color cues to compare yesterday, today, and forecast days. - Notice now much more space C needs when toggling between C and F. F's 0 to 99 range fits the natural range of temperatures humans experience (weather, body temperature). Humans just don't experience anything beyond 50 degrees C. At the same time, a single delta C is too large for the precision human bodies can detect. (Humans need something closer to 0.5C precision, which is what 1 degree F is.) - As as result C needs nearly twice as much horizontal space compared to F: due to going negative more often and needing an extra decimal for minimal precision required.

tha_hnrain 8mo ago

It renders the information totally different. How can it be a clone?

Leftium 8mo ago

Inspired by MerrySky: https://weather-sense.leftium.com https://weather-sense.leftium.com Some differences: - Shows weather from yesterday for comparison - All hourly plot trackers connected; not just the top one - Includes AQI - Sky color visualization (try scrubbing across dawn/dusk!) - Non-precipitation colors approximate sky color (haziness) - Temperature variation visualized both spatially and with colors - Data source is Open Meteo - Planned: 60 minutely forecast like https://openweathermap.org https://openweathermap.org

TuringTest 8mo ago
There's no obvious way to change the location of the prediction. Can it be done, to support the "travelling soon" use cases?
- Leftium 8mo ago
  Yes, but currently only possible via url param: - https://weather-sense.leftium.com/?n=nyc https://weather-sense.leftium.com/?n=nyc n is short for "name" and uses the Open Meteo geocoding API[1]. [1]: https://open-meteo.com/en/docs/geocoding-api https://open-meteo.com/en/docs/geocoding-api

guillohm 8mo ago

Thanks for the mention! I'm the author of merrysky. Opened to feedback. What would you say you miss the most?

bmink 8mo ago
May be too specific but as a European in the US, I would love to be able to see temperature in F and C at the same time!
schoen 8mo ago
Could you tell me the significance of the location in Australia that's used by default? I frequently clear browser cookies and history so it often jumps back there, so I see that location a lot, but can never envision exactly why it was the default. (Specifically, a point along Gol Gol Road in Arumpo, NSW, Australia.)
ggm 8mo ago
Not missed but ideas for the future * Adopt a colour scheme with similarity to the old BOM? * Some way to store longer baseline movie animations in local state so people can avoid cost in you but run the weather radar for longer? * Tide info? Hyper specific to people who do water things. Willyweather does this really well. I use Willyweather and Windy. I used to use a weather app written by some mob called "shifty jelly" and their git logs were .. hysterical. Drunk fairy penguins seemed to cause most of the bugs.
seletskiy 8mo ago
Dataviz suggestions from top of the page to the bottom: - Location search & display: no English version, only localized names, which is hard to reason if you don't know native language. - Summary: a) what does precip. in % mean and how it correlates with cm? b) pressure is only displayed in hPa, while some countries prefer mmHg; c) what does ozone index mean and why is it important? - Next 24 hours: visual indication for temp variation through the day would be easier to reason than just by looking at numbers (as discussed in TFA). - Next 7 days: a) unnecessary precision for y-axis (e.g. 10.9°C vs. 11°C); b) band overshoot actual values (e.g. if I see 10..−10°C, I assume that would be max/min temp, but in fact it is 8..−9°C, which is impossible to tell without hovering mouse over); c) no horiz. line through 0°C; d) no horiz. lines through y-axis ticks, which makes it harder to reason about values closer to the end of the graph; e) precip. in cm tells little, especially when band is alike (0.00..0.80 cm) - peaks on graphs look like a lot, in fact they are not? g) seeing blue precip. graph subconsciously means 'rain' to me, while in fact it would be snow; f) labels for y-axis are at the same time very small, rotated 90° and also take too much horizontal space from the graph. - Map: moving mouse over next 7 days graph causes time shown on map to change that would make sense if map's timeline would cover all 7 days, but it only covers small part of today. - Week: a) fog icons look like they have solid white square background, which seems to be off compared to other icons; b) low/high values are hard to reason about, especially when it says 'Low … at 11am' and there is no tick labeled '11am' (10am .. 12pm) - displaying a line through coldest/warmest hours with °C value next to it would be much easier to understand. Also: displaying air quality prediction based on last year's AQ would be helpful.